Woman dumps her newborn baby in the bin and tells no one. Gets three months in jail.

I agree with you there.

I couldn't do sentencing. I'd be a softy. But a baby. My heart is broken.

Judge Kelly described the case as "sad and tragic".

He heard all the evidence, read all the reports and decided on an appropriate sentence according to the law.

I think we should leave it at that.

On the same day here's a suspended sentence for a woman convicted of assault.

Yesterday a thread was closed on here about a woman who severed a cyclists foot in a hit and run accident, and several posters said she shouldn't serve jail time because she's a mother.

Deirdre Morley murdered her 3 children and didn't get sentenced to prison.

Do we put any women in jail in this country?

Woman who assaulted another she accused of having affair with husband given suspended sentence

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2022/07/05/woman-who-assaulted-another-she-accused-of-having-affair-with-husband-given-suspended-sentence/

Which means that you can’t see things objectively. As other posters pointed out before it’s probably good that you aren’t a judge.

I know I shouldn't take then bait, but I will.

Do you believe it was an unlawful death?

Do you believe 3 months incarceration is a suitable sentence?

She was clearly denying it the whole time to her family ect, that she was pregnant, all the way up to giving birth, and once birth happened she felt the need to deny it to keep her story, she must have been one terrified person, not some heinous killer. The whole thing is a fck up, she clearly had zero support, her mom has a lot to answer for also. Clearly at no point did her family say ' its okay, we know you're pregnant, you have our full support'

Nobody is refuting that this was an unlawful death. Not even the sentenced woman does, so why are you asking me about this?

I wouldn’t know if the sentence was suitable since I don’t know all of the details, and neither do you. I guess the judge and court did and made a decision based on it.

I can accept your utterance, and that's all it is.

It's nothing to do with emotional texture. She threw a kid in the bin.

How hard is that to understand? A baby

I know you're a bit of a shock jock on boards

It was an appropriate sentence according to the judge.

to any reasonable and fair thinking people however there was nothing appropriate about it.

but, the usual crapola… someone does something wrong, evil and heinous … “ because my mental health that’s why “

we continue on this trajectory we’ll save a few million a year on prisons…

every wrongdoing….

Judge : “ how to you plead to these murder/ robbery / assault etc charges ?

accused : “ not guilty because my mental health “

Judge : “ ok, I sentence you to three weeks in the south of France on the taxpayers tab, “

I wasn't going to post on this thread primarily because so little is known, but felt compelled too.

What happened is utterly appalling in every sense of the word. I or no one really understands what led to this, I'm actually sickened in more ways than one. We don't don't know the women's state of mind, we know nothing of a possible mental health history, her mother seems to have only suspected her daughter was pregnant and this was a 19 year old woman, likely 18 when she got pregnant.

In essence there's more questions than answers and whilst the women ultimately found guilty of manslaughter and willful neglect and this not in dispute ,I'm troubled based on the reporting of this case why the Defendant was even named , was there any psychiatric evidence sought or given what ultimately led to this tragic event. A baby died on tragic and appalling circumstances, that is absolutely not in dispute.

I'm not attempting to question the verdict but just based on reporting ,I'm just troubled by the case generally.

Read the first page.. Had to skip ahead to the end..

I am disgusted.

Not just at this story and the actions of this woman, the leniency of the sentence (another example of just how broken our supposed "justice" system is) , and the tragic death of the baby girl at her most vulnerable...

... But I'm sickened to read the amount of pandering nonsense being thrown out to excuse the actions of this woman! Seriously??

This is what we've been reduced to thanks to a combination of incessant navel gazing and the idiocy that everyone is both a special unique flower to be treasured and simultaneously a victim whenever something doesn't go their way. What about the poor little girl in this case who was killed at her most vulnerable moment by her mother?? Noo.. We should feel sorry for the mother instead?!

As devisive, political and deliberately provocative many of the posts in particularly this forum have become, it's very rare that I read something that is just fundamentally wrong on every conceivable level.

Anyone peddling this nonsense needs to take a long hard look of themselves - or better yet (because they clearly need a second opinion), have someone else do it - you're welcome!

A new low folks, even for this place!