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What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually, I disagree. While we do need to enforce deportation orders, we shouldn't jump to the extremes. Yes, closing our borders is an extreme.. it's also incredibly foolish, because it would alienate the nation.. a nation that heavily relies on foreign companies, and foreign investors.

    Asylum, and granting refugees a safe place to live, simply needs to be handled better. Not cancelled completely. The problem is the entitlement culture that has developed, along with the expectation that the help provided should be extended forever. It shouldn't. Asylum seekers and refugees should simply be extended a 3 year visa to establish themselves, and to get the funds or education needed to become self-sufficient. After that period, their visa is cancelled, and they would apply here or elsewhere as a normal economic migrant seeking employment and a place to live. Any period in Asylum or refugee should not count towards the requirement of a citizenship application.

    Immigration needs to be overhauled and regulated better. The schemes of other countries such as visas being tied to the employer/employment works well. Lose their job, they're given a short timeframe to find new work sponsor. Otherwise they are required to leave, or face deportation. Simple enough, and is common throughout the world. Make the employers financially and legally responsible for their foreign employees.. and on top of that, place all migrants on a reviewable/accountable parole/probationary status, whereby any behaviour which runs counter to our laws or values, results in deportation.

    None of this needs to be all that complicated.

    But we shouldn't jump to the extremes in reacting to all this. Badly thought out policies and feel-good measures have brought us to this situation. Some common sense, and moderate thinking is what's needed. Let's leave the bleeding hearts out of it.. but so too, leave the isolationists out of it too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,270 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    drive down wages

    make housing more unachievable for many

    contribute to ever increasing hospital waiting lists

    Have free gratis access to our overburdened and not fit for purpose public transport

    school class sizes rising

    compete for college places as no aspect of life here is being closed off.. assylum now = free third level education



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  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unfortunately it doesn't come naturally to women to think clearly and logically without their emotions getting involved, particularly in relation to migrant issues. They often overreact to the crisis like Merkel did, by point blank ripping up all the rules on an emotional whim. Then when the consequences were apparent several months later, she tried to push the problem on to others. When that didn't work she led a very dirty and expensive deal with Turkey to act as security guards for Europe.


    They simply don't have the required ruthlessness when it comes to this issue. The exception to all of this, of course, is mothers protecting their children. In those situations women are at their absolute best. Unflinching, and willing to sacrifice themselves for their children.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have no faith that they will actually deport scammers, its so easy to not get deported all you have to do is get someone to start a petition for you or go on a half hearted hunger strike for a few days and you instantly get your deportation order revoked. You need someone who is serious about the laws of the country to be minister for justice, not someone who is afraid to make an unpopular decision



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yup. We're screwed on that front. No Irish politician will commit themselves to such a position. They're too busy checking the likes on their twitter accounts.

    The simple truth is that we need a hard-reset of our political system.. along with some hefty investigations into the public/civil service. Spring cleaning of the whole shoddy mess. Not going to happen though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Miadhc



    Relax everyone, Roderic O'Gorman is going to pump more money into the NGO machine to smooth things over in Kinnegad. 


    This usually entails a "Friends of the Centre" type activist group who are treated as spokespeople for the locals by the media, and serve to downplay any unfavorable stories or reaction.


    Gardaí are also "monitoring the situation". 


    Local concerns will be assuaged, and if not there's an NGO to pretend they have been.


    This is a reply from Fianna Fáil TD Robert Troy to one of his constituents.


    The 150 asylum seekers are not going anywhere...



  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    the Government know this.... so my questions is still "WHY"?? What's in it for Ireland? What am I missing?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Breaffy in mayo recently got new neighbours into the local hotel n the red carpet was rolled out. Nothing ever happens in breaffy- until recently.

    Irish Mirror: Disgusting duo ‘made sexual gestures’ while trying to 'jump' Irish woman’s car in sly trick.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/disgusting-duo-made-sexual-gestures-27400348



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    The overused references, to "those on social media".

    What a horrible response, which amounts to you will accept this get used to it.

    "Appoint an NGO", load of bollix



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,529 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Look at the backlash Noel Grealish got when he said a few years ago that most of the men coming here from Africa were economic migrants, he was just saying what many people think but the rest of them in the Dail nearly wet themselves over his comments.

    Migration is a topic no TD wants to touch and our national broadcaster is the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,576 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    You have far left clowns like this guy

    And Mark Malone Aka SoundMigration who works for an NGO we fund


    Trying to make it all about the far right and shaming people for discussing the events in Kinnegad.

    They won't allow any debate on migrants and if you dare to question it then your it's a big far right conspiracy



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Miadhc


    That Malone guy is a total loser and a parasite.



  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Which NGO does this Student Union "Socialist" work for that we are funding?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    There was a report from Kinnegad on Newstalk this morning, interviews with some of the new arrivals giving out about the conditions they have to endure, should be on the playback.



  • Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭dorothylives


    Making it all about the right wing was the tactic the British government took in Rotherham and all over the North of England were Pakistani men were grooming and gang raping children. That was the excuse to not deal with it or even discuss it, fear of Tommy Robinson, fear of upsetting the Muslim community, who basically sat back and ignored it. The Sikhs didn't ignore it though when the pedophiles tried to do this to their daughters. I saw an article recently that the ring leader of the Rotherham pedophiles was actually employed by the council at the time, you couldn't make it up and this only came out recently. He's still in the UK by the way, despite a deportation order.

    NGO's are a massive part of this problem. The government has happyily thrown money at these people for decades without many if any checks on how it's spent or what's going on. We have far too many of them making far too much money and duplicating each other and they have become extremely powerful and wealthy, so much so that politicians are often hopeful of an obscenely high salary sitting on the board of one of them when they're out of a job. I'm in no way saying that all Muslim or Pakistani or ethnic men are a threat to women or children. What I am saying is that our political leaders are walking us down the exact same path making the exact same excuses that allowed what happened and is still happening in the North of England, to happen here.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We need some sort of express asylum process. Quick judgments. 1 hour per person. Let them make their case for asylum. If not, they should be returned to where they came from, be it their country of origin, UK, France, wherever. Get a judge down there to Kinnegad asap and go through all 150 cases over the course of a week or two. And get those young fighting aged men out of Kinnegad. They don't want to be there, and neither do the locals.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We have too many NGOs to possibly keep track of. No oversight on how our money is spent.

    Chop them ruthlessly, deport illegals, control our borders and spend the billions saved on housing and infrastructure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Miadhc


    Journalists have arrived in Kinnegad. And the narrative control begins.



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Miadhc




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Jesus fùckin christ … displaced should never mean misplaced eject into space; or wherever I don’t even just get him the hell out



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    ...another "promising soccer player" no doubt!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Quick blot it out with more links DaCor.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Everything is normal.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    It's believed there are more asylum seekers yet to arrive. It's not apparent how long it will take to process their asylum applications.

    A man in his 50s was also assaulted at the hotel at 9.45 on Monday morning and a man in his 40s was subsequently arrested.

    Councillor Leonard says, while they're not opposed to asylum seekers, neither the hotel nor the town have the capacity to support such a volume of people.

    He's been telling Midlands 103's Ellen Butler it isn't fair on the asylum seekers themselves or on the local community...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The midlands are quickly turning into a dumping ground for anyone the government wants to forget about.. You'd think they'd take one look at a town like Longford and recognise that such infusions of foreign population doesn't work very well, without the infrastructure in place to receive, and manage them. Now they want to do the same to Kinnegad. Which is a strange choice since it's more of a stopover, rather than a town capable of easily taking in such numbers.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kinnegad at 2016 census was 2700 odd. Even allowing for 3k today - they just upped the population by 5% in one go with more to come.

    Madness.



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