BMW i4

Arrogant order taking, zero discounts, being treated poorly despite spending a lot of money. When did we see that before in Ireland in car dealers? 2007 rings a bell...

Change the woman 🤣

Jaysus couldnt be doing that sure. invested too much time at this stage :P

Yes we were cross shopping the MX, MY from tesla vs the iX and i4 from BMW. The prospect of waiting a year for the iX or i4m50 I wanted, or indeed 2+ years for the MX I wanted, we bought a used MSM model X instead.

The i4 in msport trim really is a lovely car and I was very surprised after the test drive to see it's a hatchback !

Yeah love my tech too but all things considered I’ll buy it anyway. Likely trade it in around 3 or 4 years and hopefully won’t be chip issues then. Can live without the items listed, don’t have them in the A6 so won’t be like I know what I’m missing!

Was worried the keyless entry or harmon kardon would be removed but happy they ain’t.

Looks like full price reduction is €2335 so basically giving me the tech pack instead of tech pack plus.

Doesnt seem to be any reduction to allow to lumbar removal in passenger seat, anyone have any idea what that would be worth?

Euro NCAP is getting tougher to score 5 stars every year. A 4 star score wouldn't stop me from buying it. Here are the details

Full Euro NCAP test downloadable:

Comments:

The passenger compartment of the i4 remained stable in the frontal offset test. Dummy numbers demonstrated good protection for the knees and femurs of both the driver and passenger. BMW demonstrated that a similar level of protection would be provided to occupants of different sizes and to those sitting in different positions. Analysis of the deceleration of the impact trolley during the test, and analysis of the deformable barrier after the test, revealed that the i4 would be a moderately benign impact partner in a frontal collision. In the full width rigid-barrier impact, protection of all critical body areas was good or adequate, for both the driver and rear seat passenger. In both the side barrier test and the more severe side pole impact, protection of all critical body areas was good and maximum points were scored. Control of excursion (the extent to which a body is thrown to the other side of the vehicle when it is hit from the far side) was found to be adequate. The i4 does not have a counter-measure to mitigate against occupant to occupant injuries in such impacts. Tests on the front seats and head restraints demonstrated good protection against whiplash injuries in the event of a rear-end collision. A geometric analysis of the rear seats also indicated good whiplash protection. The i4 has an advanced eCall system which alerts the emergency services in the event of a crash but no system to apply the brakes after an impact to avoid secondary collisions. 

I'd be very concerned about some of those extra missing absolutely making the car sale proof in 2 or 3 years time when we aren't in these supply constraints- stuff like Adaptive Cruise and indeed the whole driver assistant plus pack, or Lumbar is a must have imo as its standard even on many budget cars and I certainly wouldn't be buying a car without those features. I'd be wanting the full cost of the package back before I'd consider proceeding with an order

@Casati - radar adaptive cruise and lane keep assist are both standard on a base model Hyundai Ioniq electric (€25k) but neither are standard on a Porsche Taycan (€100k), a regular poster in here ordered his Taycan without either option. So not everybody wants this or is prepared to pay for it. I wouldn't worry about this in relation to future resale value too much...

I guarantee your friendly BMW dealer will - any excuse for them to low ball the punter with the trade-in etc. Having said that I wouldn't refuse a Taycan even if it had exercise windows fitted

The passenger side lumbar deletion has been going on a while now before supply issues , probably a couple of years.It was purely a money saver for BMW. They also deleted the auto dimming glass on the passenger side mirror at the same time.

I wouldn’t worry about some of the features from the tech plus pack being removed from a resale point of view as the majority of cars will not be ordered with this stuff anyway.

The Ultimate edition of the BMW I3, which is the final edition of the car , comes with every extra.

Except , only comes with a small screen.

My G20 was Nov 2018 build. It has driving assistance pro pack and parking assist plus. I get no new features like, Assist Drive View or the drive recorder. The recorder is €240 but it's included in later builds. The Assist Drive View works cause I coded it as does lane change assist. BMW don't seem to understand if the car has the hardware then they should make the features available on that model. It would put me off purchasing. In my job if you purchase a product you get all the future features for that version included with updates.

The passenger autodim deletion far predates the lumbar delete. BMW removed it in early 2016. My July 2016 built 430d didnt have it.

Manufacturers are missing a trick here alright, but they are getting better. BMW have been fitting the HBA stalk to G20's for a while now even if HBA was not optioned. It can be purchased online at any time.

im guessing its disable it every time, its like a muscle memory when im in the etron, very annoying.

It could be argued that the coding process is even simpler on BMW's with the FA and default coding system used by BMW. Just add the option code and the software works out which module needs coding changed and what needs changing.

Yes it was like that on most VAG's of the time. IIRC, on the mk4 it required running a wire from the steering column to the ecu. If you had a cable-operated throttle body, you were SOL. On the mk5, it was engine dependant. If you had a tdi mk5, you were golden. Early GTI's needed the extra wire too.