Dutch police fire at protesting farmers

The communist agenda oh edit …. The “Climate” agenda is starting to show it’s true colours now. I wonder what the well funded troll in chief Greta has to say about police shooting at farmers.

Aye, seems their government wants to slaughter 30% of their livestock To Meet Climate Goals. Though these greenies were all into their animal rights, apparently not.

Just a matter of time before the rest of the EU push the same agenda.

See their farmers have blocked an airport too, Long time since there but think its Groningen. Nothing in the media here & Twitter took it down.

They ultimately want us eeking an existence eating insects and seeds. All this while we freeze to death with energy bills in the stratosphere. Anyone who supports these climate psychopathic nut jobs will be to blame

It's time to exit Europe.

As hard as it might seem it will be a lot better outcome than what's in the future for all of us.

Don't tell the Greens this but the 30% and much more to come will be filled by the cattle ranchers of Brazil etc. The Amazonian rain forest, said to be the lungs of our planet, is being slashed & burned and turned into arable land to procuce more and more beef to satisfy the world's insatiable appetite for beef products. The Greens are a terminal cancer in our midst, they are slowly but surely strangling Europe's farmers to the determinant of the wrold's climate while the major polluters like China, USA, Russia etc. laugh at us and increase their production. If it wasn't so serious it would be comical. Nobody (in authority) shouted STOP

He owns 270,000 acres. Buying it for sport.

Latest purchase of 2,000 acres in North Dakota had to go before government to see if it was approved, such is his rate of buying and scale now. They approved the sale.

Such as the age of Internet and how Bill made his money. It's about control.

More control you enforce. For those not in the loop and benefiting from it and if they outnumber those in the loop then it manifests in rebellion.

Is the problem over there the massive debt farms carry ,they can not carry on if they reduce stocking

I get your point but to some level they are coming for all farmers across Europe.

Afaik it's ammonia is the stick they're being bet with.

Ammonia being the gas form of nitrogen. They're claiming it's to protect the nature reserves. And that too much nitrogen is being blown on the wind into the reserves. Doesn't matter if you've an organic livestock farm in Holland reductions in stock are being looked for.

It's smokescreen stuff imo to get their way against livestock.

It's a lesson for Ireland about land getting classified and restrictions in surrounding regions then following on.

Comparison with Ireland is far fetched. The Dutch have 10 million pigs, 100 million poultry, 3.4 million bovines and 1.4 million sheep and goats.

This in an area less than 1.5 times the size of Munster. A lot of that is on land reclaimed from the sea. It also has a population of 17.5 million.

In 2000 only 10% of dairy herds were housed full-time. Now it's 30%. Yes it's amonia they are bet with as you point out. However it's the shear amount of it. There stocking rates are horrendous, but along with that virtually every farmer is stocked that way.

Everything is virtually feedlot based and producing slurry that needs to be spread.

To add to it further the researchers at the nature reserves claim the majority of ammonia wafts over from Germany.

This is going to spread Bass.

You can even see how ammonia emissions have been talked about in the North and border counties of Ireland.

It's definitely a stick and it's the one they'll use on livestock.

Ammonia is nothing when the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen.

Dismissing the ammonia issue does your argument no good - its a gas that has been proven to damage human lungs and many types of sensitive organisms that are vital to woodland and wetland health. Comparing it to inert N2 in the air is like comparing Hydrogen Sulphide to water🙄 since both have a H element. Standing over the carry on in NI in terms of illegal importation of chicken litter that adds to our own ground water etc. pollution issues here doesn't help either. I would also add that NI now has the highest intensive livestock density in the UK with recently only one out of 50 lakes sampled there by the environment agency being found to be in "good condition"

That a moot point given how much Dutch intensive livestock units depend on feed sourced from the likes of Brazil.

Climate change requires global solutions for local problems.

Unfortunately what we are getting is local solutions to global problems.

With new real change from big polluters like India or China then the global trajectory will not be altered and everything we do is pointless and is just going to cost extra money and be used as a political football.

I would think the majority of farms in Ireland rely on payments from DAFM. Without them, as they currently operate they are unviable.

Even less I'd say. Follow a fellow farming in Nebraska and he is stocked at Cow and calf for every 15 acres.

Holland already has a massive Horticulture industry - the farming sector there would probably be better off focusing furture development on that rather then flogging the dead and increasingly unsustainable horse of intensive livestock production which is also losing money hand over fist like the intensive pig industry here

How will that go for them with gas prices.

Horticulture, across western Europe, is still suffering from the refusal of society to reward the production of food.

We had posters with cows out grazing here in January. Saving carbon everyway in grazing forage in situ instead of burning diesel hauling forage and out manure. And other posters claiming it not possible because they spent time with award winning farmers in kildare who never managed such a thing till April.

I'm lost. Isn't nitrogen a gas? Around 78% the air we breath?