Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

No worries on that score - both Jack O'Connor and Paddy Tally will be ramming home about that 15 minute spell where we really faded out of the match! Commiserations to Dublin - you put up the resistance that would be expected of a truly great team, and whenever Dubs travel to Tralee, you're generally some of the most knowledgeable and fair-minded fans in the game, so I'm sure it'll be nip and tuck between us again next year.

As for Farrell, considering the player turnover you've had in the last few years, can't imagine anyone else would have kept things ticking over to the extent he has, though anyone who knows the Dublin county championship scene is free to name potential candidates.

The imbeciles are the lads posting Twitter videos and freeze frames of what happened after he kicked the ball. This after all TV analyst's said it was there to be won

The picture shows it was there to be won.

Agree but what are the alternatives? It’s needs someone who is not afraid to try something different to make the players play better than the sum of their parts. I get the feeling Dessie does not do that. Even though I expected Kerry to win today.

The Dependence on Con is worrying, fb line still susceptible to a simple high ball, no pace in forward line with no Con, no movement from players providing guy in possession with options. Lots of methodical slow side to side, or back ways stuff. Which is why Costello’s goal felt like a surprise.

Same issues from league. No real consistent change as far as I can see. Anyone who watched Farrell’s team knows the way they play.

I don’t buy that it is not ticking over it is going downhill faster than it should. Who have Dublin beaten in non Covid AI under Farrell? Covid AI was farce really let’s be honest.

How has Dessie Farrell done in league? How has Farrell done on tactics and subs? Plenty of games he was bringing on a sub for five minutes when too late game was lost - happened in loads of league games.

Plus As much as a legend Rock is I think Dublin need a free taker who is a danger from play. I think Dublin having to play for frees/marks means less dynamic movement and stop start type stuff.

Be 33 by the time the next years championship final comes around so by virtue of that and the vast amount of football he’s played…

wiki saying his scoring output is 19-508 across league and All Ireland, phenomenal…

influence from play did seem to be waning last while. But well over 100 intercounty games.

You are depending on Rock for frees. He contributes very little as a player from play. James McCarthy and Fitzsimmons both were influential but bother are on a downward slope. Has çCooper played his last game in a Dublin Jersey.

Fenton and Kilkenny will be 30 this time next year. Dublin will spend next Winter in D2 playing meaningless matches. Can they find 4-5 player in to start to fill the gaps.

How many of McCarthy, Rock, Fitzsimmons and Cooper will be there next year. Fenton and Kilkenny have another 2-3 years before age really starts to catch them. Give it 2-3 years and Costello, Lahiff, Scully and Byrne are all 30ish.

Time is catching this team similar to Mayo. It's similar to Kerry from 2015-2017 they get you so far in championship but they will not win one

That's what I said Dublin are team in transition. People think a change of manager will help Dublin. We don't have quality of player as show today.

Watched some of the game back, something i rarely do with defeats but i was bored...

Kerry doubled up effectively on the men they knew could go passed a man. Every time Kilkenny got the ball they worked an extra man over to him to cover. That's the kind of detail that wins games.

Kerry routinely, and cynically, fouled to stop quick Dublin transitions. The only exception the goal when they couldn't get a hand on a Dub. That's the kind of detail that wins games.

Kerry had a plan in place to get their best shooters in positions to score. Donegal used to do the same under McGuinness and Dublin under Gavin. That's the kind of detail that wins games.

I don't care what people say about the production line and/or the alternatives to replace Farrell but I know he cannot be the best man for the job. Too much escapes his attention and it's obvious when you see the final product. His bullshit about giving players exposure and building a new squad/new identity is exactly that...bullshit.

Oh and Lahiff put in a huge shift.

Feel bad for Dessie Farrell. Folks on twitter making out like it was an embarrassment to the team, but in actuality it came down to one cruel kick of the ball.

I don't think Farrell should be replaced. He's still building a team, he's lost a lot of people in the last few years. I will say there were some moments of off the ball shenanigans that showed Dublin's composure was lacking. You wouldn't have seen it under the likes of Gavin. As someone informed me, Gavin's take was 'if you've the energy to start fights, you're not playing enough football'.

I wonder if Farrell will stay on, however. I know he's been open about issues around his mental health. And the type of scrutiny that you get from the media, and the fans, regarding Dublin... might not be worth it.

Hard to name anyone who is a likely candidate to replace Dessie if there is going to be a change .I have been critical of his performances over the last two years he seems to have little tactical nous showed up again against Kerry . It takes very little to make the semi finals at the moment we beat very poor teams like last year to get that far .Lack of composure particularly at the end of the semi finals proved very costly you did not see that under Jim in fact quite the opposite. That is down to the manager and his team to have sorted .

I think it was good of Farrell to keep a couple of good forwards in Small and Scully on the bench. It's a squad game now and Jim Gavin always wanted big players to come in and 'finish' the game. If Small started theres no guarantee he would have played as well and Lorcan O Dell may have had no influence if brought on. So i was happy enough to have the likes of Byrne, Small annd Scully to come in.

Skully missed a bad one in injury time

72 mins I reckon

You just knew if it was a Jim Gavin team, it would be worked to the shooter.