Mod Note Post #1 - The 2022 All Ireland Senior Football Championship.

His lot are too busy lying on the deck on top of footballs to get a good look at collecting Sam…plenty of exercise walking up them steps throughout the last 10 years though, 6 times was it ? Wow 😉

When have the hurlers have poor attendances? Dipped slightly the last day with the bare 20k, probably down to cost of living and Limerick being dominant. Had the majority of the crowd for virtually every game for the previous decade , sans possibly the Limerick final

Should the penalty have been retaken because the goalie was off his line?

He definitely moved forward and his left foot was well off the line. His right heel may have grazed the line when the ball was struck.

What is the rule, is it both feet on the line?

I was at the game as a neutral and what a game to go to.

In the first half I was thinking "why the **** don't dublin play like this against kildare" - they were so flat, completely risk averse, afraid or unwilling to take the game to kerry, take a shot from middle distance, ignoring runners on favour of easy lateral passes. What happened to the Dublin teams that came out and blitzed a team, then managed the game to the end? They are doing the complete opposite now. I think dublin had the beating of kerry if they had backed themselves.

Re the penalty incident, the replays show that both of seanie osheas feet are off the ground - not sure how you can claim it was a deliberate kick when he was sailing through the air

Because age is catching them. Like the 87 Munster final where the great Kerry team died with there boots on, this Dublin team had it's last Hooray today. Dublins best players today were Kilkenny, Fenton,( both 30 this time next year) Fitzsimmons, Cooper, McCarthy ( all over 30). Kerry were very nervy in the third quarter but still ground out the match.

They were lucky they were not blitzed today. Kerry should have scored the penalty and Stephen O'Brien should have scored that other goal. If either went in Dublin would have lost by 5+. But to be fair they ground there way into the match to nearly take it to extra time.

Two weeks ago people were on about how poor Mayo were. But in reality the Kerry backs are putting fierce pressure on forwards when they try to kick the ball.

This Kerry team is without two backs that would probably start ahead of two of the present six. If Dublin had over committed to the attack, Kerry would have scored more on the counter

The referee had a great position to see all that and made the right call.

I will add that if it was the other way around and Rock went in like that on the Kerry keeper the Dubs would be saying he did nothing wrong and half the country would be looking for a red.

The discussion was about skill levels. Which player of those dublin sides had a higher skill level than him?

Some of those are hard to enforce. For example, what if the corner back goes bombing up the field, can the corner forward not track him once he crosses the halfway line? What if the gk is taking frees? I agree on the tackle though, it is currently way too loose and it is suiting blanket defences and harsher on teams who are trying to play. If they enforced tackling rules properly and also the steps rule at the same time it would stop a lot of this stuff. Furthermore if teams had the cop on to work on the forward mark it would counter a lot of it also.

One thing i think needs looking at is the advantage rule. If a guy takes on a shot, im not sure the advantage should come back if it goes wide. They have played on and had a scoring opportunity.

A bigger issue i see is lack of meaningful punishment for cynical fouls when teams try to counter attack. They should be yellow cards every time.

I didnt 'piggy bag', or piggy back for that matter, onto anything. I was very much part of the initial conversation. Not that that matters, I mean surely you are 'piggy bagging' here yourself? Does that mean you aren't entitled to engage in the discussion?

Clifford is a more skillful player than any of them. Connolly was very skillful but clifford is only a young lad and he is already showing a higher skill level than connolly did at his peak. As was already pointed out, darren daly has the same number of all irelands, and all due respect to him, but it displays that all ireland wins dont corrolate to individual skill.

I don't know why people are bothering arguing with you. You referred to Clifford as

"anonymous in big games Clifford"

There is a neighbours dog barking outside my window at the moment who has more of a clue about it that you have.