How can we integrate Unionism into a possible United Ireland?

I was at rammstein last night in France , they cancelled their Belfast gig during lockdown and never rescheduled. But if they did reschedule would they raise the Union Jack at the start as they raise the national flag at all gigs , or is there an alternative? That “occupied” my mind for a few seconds last night

Of course not Francie, there would never have been Unionist supremacy after Home Rule. But an agreement and changing roles allowing all communities to share the island and live together. But to bring this back again to the title of this thread, the people of this island need to move backwards to go forwards. Ways need to be found to integrate 'unionism' into an all Ireland structure, even at the loss of some sacred cows of Irish nationalism. So that we can all move forward again together. This needs adjustment and some sacrifice of principles, for the better long term good.

Well given that you & others of similar thinking can't make any suggestions for how to make accommodation for unionists in a possible United Ireland, the thread is pointless. You're not interested in integrating unionism, you're basic thinking is to let them take it or leave it. Nothing more to be said.

Unionists are already integrated and catered for here. They have exactly the same rights as anyone else. If they arern't tell us what rights are not avaiilable to them?

Nobody I know is trying to 'impose' Irishness. I fully accept that there is a British history and heritage here and that it is part of what Ireland is. I also have zero problems with the British identity or any other identity living on this island.

it's a fantasy of the exclusionary southern unionist.

nobody is imposing irishness on anyone but the reality is that unionists are fully catered to here in the south.

but this idea that partition will continue in the form of federalism or that we will remove aspects of our culture while allowing unionists to keep all theirs is just not happening.

This exclusionary nationalist fantasy that just because they believe that unionists are fully catered for in the South, that a united Ireland will not be a problem is just extremely delusionary, lacking in understanding and empathy.

The GFA recognises the British identity on this island, any successor to the GFA has to do the same, that means changed to what exclusionary nationalists believe is a united Ireland.

So what rights are the government here denying to anyone who identifies as British or who is a Unionist?

Oh here we go again. Back to referencing the GFA as meaning national identify needs to be written into law. Apart from being entitled to an irish passport can you reference where the irish constitution says i need to act a certain irish way?

Again blanch all the LEGAL meaning of the GFA is that the irish state and UK must give people born in NI citzenship. By the GFA the only country that can take away the British identity is the UK by not giving citzenship in a UI. But you never listen to this. In a few pages you will be coming out again referencing the GFA as something it doesn't mean. You also try and make it out there is only two identities in Ireland. Wake up there is hundreds of identities in Ireland.

We live in a EU country that allows freedom of expression. Any of the hundreds of foreign identities in Ireland can express this as long as it is not breaking in the law and will continue of this right if freedom of expression in a UI.

What has become apparent here is that you don't understand the legal meaning of the GFA.

Anybody can identify as what they like. It is called freedom of expression. Me being from the south can identify as British if i wanted to. Nobody could successfully sue me for such an expression. But i cant demand the UK give me citizenship even tho I identify as British as I dont meet the criteria for uk citzenship.

However the international peace treaty that was the GFA means anyone from NI not only has the right of freedom of expression but they also have an express right to have UK or irish citizenship. Thats all the gfa means regarding identity.

Where does the GFA say this? Must have missed that.

I doubt the British will agree with it either.

Kaiden Happy Mouthpiece for goodness sake Ireland is their country too. You're positing your statement as if people of unionist/Protestant heritage are refugees or aliens.

In a UI there will be a pro-UK polity in Ireland and it will be social-democratic and positive because that's the only way it could be. A UI will be the death-knell for blood-and-thunder Paisley-style unionism as a political force and that should be welcomed by all of us.

You're from a unionist background and live in the south I believe? Do you feel like a foreigner here?

blanch believes the GFA is only open to his interpretation. He won't be backing up where it says a UI needs to be 'part British', he won't be showing any political appetite for that scenario either just like there is no public or political appetite for his 'federal' kick to touch stuff or his Lie Down Croppy Boy super majority.

"parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for the identity, ethos, and aspirations of both communities;"

British identity gets parity of esteem.