Mayo GAA Discussion

Need to just run at them, that ref is giving soft frees all game for decent tackles.

Edit: need to be able to kick a free.

That is diabolical reffing

Galway the better team, but the ref seems to be giving them everything.

The blanket defence was the difference. We just dont seem to know how to counter it. Getting tired of writing that.

Saying that I felt the reffing was a big issue. Some seriously bad calls in that game. It's not fair on young lads in an all ireland final. The standards should be higher.

You might be right if it's ex senior players doing the coaching. Some of them couldn't kick it over the bar either.

The problem is we can't seem to score long range points when they have everyone behind the ball. We need to get it close to goal to have a shot.

Other teams seem to have the players and ability to get the ball have one look and over the bar from long range.

Wouldnt agree. Galway were playing with a packed defence and then counter attacked into the space left behind. It is easier to look like a hero when there is an ocean of space around you in a 1 on 1 situation. There was basically 22 bodies heading for the galway goal for many of our attacks. It is never going to work.

We had plenty ball but we kept running it up the middle and crowding bodies in there - the exact opposite of what we needed to do.

We needed to spread them as wide across the pitch and use angled runs to punch holes, like a game of rugby basically. Dublin do it and dismantle packed defences. All it takes is a few scores and the cracks start to appear. Confidence in the system drops.

if we did that with even half the possessions we had we could have won the game.

The longer we insist on soloing the ball out of our halfback line the longer this will go on, be it minor or senior or anywhere else.

Good post

So is the process for the new manager beginning tomorrow? Most people I have spoken to reckon it's Dempsey's but I'd be interested to see who puts their hat in the ring officially. Wonder will anyone outside the county go for it.

Solan had gone in to favourite with the bookies from what I last heard, haven't come across many even mentioning him though... Anyone I talk to seems to say give Dempsey a crack at it. Maybe Solan would be the county boards preference.

Personally I would like to see Ciaran Mc involved in the new set up. I don't think we seen much of his influence this year but I think he has a lot to offer and seemed to help RO'D and Conroy come through.

I've too much on at the moment 🤣

I am quite possibly over-emphasising his effect. I just thought he seemed to add a bit more confidence in our general forward play in his first year. I think there was something behind the supposed mini bust-up with Horan and he didn't seem to have the same role/presence this year... But all this is in my head and I haven't a clue really.

I thought apart from the buzz of a former great we are worse off offensively. We had a defensive coach in Buckley and that worked . We need an offensive coach with a track record .

what ever team it is I just want Solan in there and possibly one other as manager .

Not surprised that Horan had the last word on everything, that's just the guys nature.

On the McDonald thing I do think a lot of people over rate his influence and/or effectiveness.

We've discussed here all year about how the loss of Conroy and later O'Donoghue had affected Mayo, and how the replacements don't seem up to it.

If the forwards coach was as good as he is supposed to be them the replacements could have been up to it, or at least more up to it.

I'm looking forward to the management change.

Tbh, Horan was right to back himself as it worked out for him on most occasions. I hope we get a guy that is as driven as Horan and gives the same level of commitment. We can never question his desire to bring Mayo on. I do think he went a little soft and lost his ruthless streak as I am not sure Horan from part 1 would have played Coen/AOS as much. The new guy needs to make some big calls on players. I would even go as far as making an example of someone to set the tone. if the new guy doesn't then we are back in the merry go around with defeats in the latter end of the championship as we currently have too many passengers in the panel.

Not that I would have him in the running for the Mayo job but I wonder what they made of him in Offaly...

Promotion to Division 2 wasn't a bad achievement but I think it was during the covid half season wasn't it. Straight down again this year.

I was surprised he stepped down but I think its at the end of his contract. He had introduced quite a number of young players to the senior team and their trajectory in on the way up. Somewhat unlucky to loose to Wexford (who were a mess against Dublin) in the Leinster Championship this year. Offaly would have put up a better showing against the Dubs than Wexford did. I wonder would he be interested in the Mayo job, was that the reason he didn't look for an extension in Offaly?

So much talk about who the new manager of Mayo should be and some downright rude remarks from some 'punters' when certain things are pointed out about certain candidates.

This business of appointing someone from outside and 'funding' them appropriately, should it be entertained? People saying that in a new short season the idea of a manager from the other side of the country taking the Mayo job would not be as difficult as in the past, with less travelling etc.

My own view on this new shorter season is that it is too condensed and I 'd expect things to revert to a proper season in the near future. Last years AI was what it was due to Covid etc. but having a season start in May and end before July is out(like this years) is not good...expect CP to knock it on the head soon.This years gate takings will be well down due to no Mayo and no replays. The only people the 'new' condensed season supports are the players that get knocked out of the All Ireland series early, they can go to the USA and play in the American Championship and then return to play in their own Club Championship come August.

Will McStay let his name go forward and if he does will he take McHale with him and will the dinosaurs stop it in its tracks like before?

The idea of a total outsider 'who has no favorites as regards the players' is something that I've been hearing a lot lately would be the best option. Saying this sort of thing went on would be attacked by many psychopaths and that's being kind to them! Unfortunately there is a fear amongst some hardened one directional individuals that do not look outside the box and never will. Until this weakness is accepted and worked on we will never move on.

To be fair to J.Horan and the Mayo team they have given an awful lot,to not only Mayo fans, but to the whole country and beyond over the past 10 years and more.Of course there were some mistakes made but nobody is perfect.

Its amazing to look back at the GAA as a whole and look at someone like Mick O'Dwyer who was the whole management team of the great Kerry performers back in the 70' and 80' yet today there are more back room people than there are players and then there is the Mayo set up with this and more who consider themselves just as important as all the players, backroom personnel etc who have made their lives and reared their families from the 'crumbs' garnered off the back of some great people.Its not right but these people see themselves as 'privileged' and will never go away,full of their own self importance.It might be time to look in the mirror for some of them and to have a 'heart to heart ' with the person they see peering back at them!

@ethical

The condensed championship is designed to help the club players have some form of a life where they now can plan their summer without having to train for a championship without knowing the start date.

Apart from being wholly inaccurate you're also talking about mimicking something from 50 years ago, things move on, you've statisticians, physios, backs coaches, kick out people, if you're talking about going without those then its back to the dark ages, we wouldn't be long ending up in D4, you wouldn't get a junior team without a lot of these lads nowadays.

And on O'Dwyer he was selector in 1967 after his first retirement, he had selectors and trainers all through his tenure

Not sure who you have in mind here but that f**king nonsense, anyone I've ever known involved in any Mayo setup has been there to do their best and certainly haven'r "reared" their family on the back of it