Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Did you sign off from the wrong account?

Well no, it's not obvious that you will believe lower figures as it's possible for figures to be too low.

You wouldn't accept the idea what 1 or 2 people only have died from the vaccine as plausible, would you?

I'm asking so you can clarify. If I had assumed you also believed that the lower figures were plausible, I get the feeling you'd be complaining about misrepresentation again.

Ok. So you believe the range could be anywhere between 2000 or lower and millions. Pretend wide there.

Which number do you think is the most plausible and why?

Why do you believe that the higher numbers are plausible at all when you are unable to explain the issue with them that I pointed out (and you of course ignored.)

And when you were asked to explain why such a high number of deaths due to vaccines wouldn't be noticed or reported, you dodged. You can't explain this, so your opinion doesn't make a whole bunch of sense.

Why do you think the numbers are small? What's that based on? How do you know that they are too small?

And yes, I am confident that the higher numbers are not likely to the point of being practically impossible, especially if we are to believe that millions of deaths are occuring due to the vaccine.

If that number of people were dying because of the vaccine, it would be obvious, it would be reported on and action would be taken. If there are 10s of thousands of deaths, then there would be millions of other very noticeable severe side effects as well. If you're suggesting that there's millions of deaths, then there's 10s of millions of cases of severe side effects as well.

There's no way that experts and organizations would miss this while you and your friends have somehow figured it out based on your own hunches.

Conspiracy theorists would suggest that this is because of a global conspiracy to cover this up. But I will assume that you agree that this isn't a valid explanation.

I believe that there has been perhaps only about 3000 deaths on the higher end of the scale directly due to the vaccine (excluding allergic reactions.)

Cept I can explain where my opinion came from and I can support my opinion with more than my own personal hunches.

I asked you to explain why you thought the lower estimates were too low. You can't do this. You've no reason at all to claim that they are too low.

I explained why the higher estimates are not plausible. I asked you to explain the issue. You cannot do this either.

You are simply plucking your opinion out of thin air must like drunk monkey pulled the number out of thin air.

Not all opinions are valid just because some one holds them.

In the opinion of some of your fellow conspiracy theorists, the vaccines make you magnetic.

Lol but I've already explained my points. None of them have anything to do with my "self regard".

You're just ignoring them as usual because you can't address them.

I also explained how your opinion seems to come from the "inflated self regard" you're accusing me of.

What are you basing your claim that the lower estimates are too low on?

Simple direct question. Answer it please.

OK. So then you believe that the study is wrong and fraudulent again.

And your dodging the question.

I'm asking you why your posting here because the answer highlights the central flaw in you position. Your claims are all conspiracy theory nonsense that aren't welcome in real discussions.

You continual dodging of this answer shows that you know this is the case and you understand why it undermines your position, you just aren't honest enough to admit as much.

Unless of course you'd like to fall back to the default conspiracy claim and accuse the boards mods of a conspiracy.

You always fall back to childish name calling regardless of what account you have used. Reported for personal abuse.