Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

If you want to talk about soft All Ireland's look at the last six Dublin got. Fitzmaurice's refusal to drop the lads from the noughties set Kerry back 2-3 years. Mayo would not win an All Ireland if you handed it to them. They always find a way to lose. Present Galway and Tyrone teams are fairly decent a d they will not get stage fright like Mayo

Why not go outside, I believe Malachy O Rourke is available? He would do a lot with the quality players Dublin still have.

The majority of Dublin faithful would be very uneasy about that, I think. There were 'blow in' managers in the past who played club with Dublin. Such as McCaul and Lyons. But would never be the same (the affection and time) as a former Dublin legend would be given.

I was thinking recently retired players could work. Bryan Cullen worked with S&C with Leinster Rugby, and Philly McMahon mad on his fitness and has his own healthy eating food range. Both lads would be well able to have a joint manager thing or Cullen as manager Philly assistant. Both would span the Gilroy and Gavin eras should have picked up a good lot.

For Galway, winning first day out in Castlebar was key. Once achieved, the road was clear for a serious run to the final as Kerry / Dublin were the other side of the draw. As shown by the league campaign and Division 2 final (where they were missing some starters, only brought Walsh on later on and had others playing in different positions), they were building nicely and starting to settle a team a bit more (McDaid to help Conroy in midfield, a fit Daly at no. 6). Despite a couple of mishaps, Galway don't fear Ulster sides when they are going well. I for one predicted a Galway / Dublin decider after the Connacht final.

In a word, NO. Same failings as the past two seasons and has seemingly learned nothing from last seasons semi defeat. Add in relegation and he should be out the gap before we finish July.

Jim Gavin

You would say that just on paper based on the last semi final v Kerry.

But Dublin were very lucky Kerry did not run away with it IMO. And to me it had a feel of Dublin older players running on ‘muscle memory. ‘

If you look at performances in the league against top teams similar stuff to that Kerry game. That ponderous slow backwards and side to side stuff. Vulnerable fb line.

And if you look at Dublin’s big wins in Leinster this year Wexford were brutal, And Kildare played Kamikaze stuff.

And the other team Dublin beat were Meath, who subsequently lost to Clare in the qualifiers!

Plus Dublin are turning into a one man team - Con O’Callaghan. And there does not have seemed to be a tactical change by Farrell to counteract this dependence.

This Dublin decline was signposted a over a year ago as Dublin laboured to beat Wexford in Wexford park as far as I am concerned.

Yet Farrell seems to have done nothing to change things except maybe move players all over the place and hope it will be grand. Oh and playing more direct against gales during the league. It is top notch tactical stuff. As another poster mentioned.

Haha well done point taken. I suppose to be honest, I think of the 90’s. When Dessie was a great player for Dublin. One of the few who could create something from nothing.

But now I feel that legacy and memory is tarnished with the realisation that Dessie Farrell has the cut of a chancer/bluffer. Instead Creating nothing from something.

I feel there needs to be a bit of vibrancy injected into not just the players. But management. Put a duo like Bryan Cullen and Philly McMahon in charge. It would create a buzz and give the Dub fans something to get behind.

Yeah I know Tommy Lyon’s fell on his arse after hyping Dublin up. But he is an Offaly man was never a Dub player.

Instead Put former Dubs in that know about fitness and the modern game. Cullen has expertise in Strength and Conditioning. As does Philly with knowledge on nutrition as well. Both fellas are leadership type fellas.

And let’s be honest Leinster is that bad I think any Random poster from boards (even a Mayo one) could manage this current Dublin side to Leinster victory!

So I think Cullen/McMahon wouldn’t do worse than a Leinster. But unlike a random poster on boards.ie. Cullen/McMahon at least have a presence/name. And it should create a buzz.

Plus let’s be honest the interviews can be any worse than Dessie Farrell ones!

Ok then how would have the game have gone if O’Shea scored the pen, and Comerford did not kill time for the John Small absence?

First of all Kerry got a nice slice of luck to win the penalty as Clifford was going for a point and when it rebounds off the post like that it's a lottery where it lands. It happened to land in the Kerry lads hands.

I've heard pundits comment that Small's black card was harsh and not deserved. Didn't see it clearly myself but maybe Kerry got a nice break there also.

People that weren't at the game don't realise the strength of the breeze. I was sitting lower Hogan and the sidekine flags were blowing hard down towards the Canal end and i thought to myself early on that if Dublin could keep it to 5 or 6 points at the break they wouldn't be in a bad place.

And Dublin got on top in the second half and not once did i feel they were out of the game and i thought they'd go on and win it after Costelloe's goal.

So i don't believe Dublin were very lucky that Kerry never ran away with it at all.

I was at the game as well so am aware of the breeze.

It was the only thing I could hope for when yer man was taking the last kick. Costello’s goal was against run of play on the break. A bit like Kevin Mc’s in 2011.

But unlike that goal the atmosphere change was not as big in the stadium. Kerry kept their heads this time around as well. This time their game management was better.

When Costello’s goal went in, my first thought was ‘nice surprise but it was only a start to build on.’ It was not as if I thought ‘oh we have them now!’

If Dessie does stay he has to improve his team on the training ground and sideline on match day .People keep talking about all the players he used quite a few got a run out close to injury time never understood the point of that especially a lot of the matches we were already beaten .

I watch the warm ups and other teams have all sorts of clever drills. Interchange stuff etc similar to what Gavin used to have them doing. All looking very impressive and teams knowing exactly what the game plan is

I remember watching one of the Dublin games probably one of the games after the Armagh game. And I thought ‘Jayus even Dessie’s warm up routines are brutal!’