Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

The UK won't take refugees fleeing from ....France, so now we're swamped! Danm UK and their disinterest in asylum shoppers! It's all their fault!

You seriously couldn't make it up.

It's a new low, utterly disgusting.

No one denies we've a small percentage of asylum seekers coming here illegally but it's utterly preposterous to even suggest the UK's RECENT decision is the cause of the Debacle here, the UK'S decision, May, only May impact Ireland at some stage but its absolutely nothing to do with the mess our government have made .

I again reiterate the current wave of asylum seekers is not a wave , approximately 600 actually invited here by the last government under an agreement, pre pandemic. They knew they were coming and either forgot or just yet again were not prepared.

I've been helping one refugee who is here with a very disabled family member. They live in one of the hotels and they are from a badly effected area in Ukraine. As I got to know her better, she told me 70% of people around her where she stays are from the West of the country where nothing is going on. Some are boasting they rented out their apartments back home to refugees coming from the East of the country and that they are going to stay here for as long as they are getting the social welfare benefits. Once that stops, they'll probably leave they say.

I mean, you are being fed 3 times a day getting 900eur per month (that's a single rate with no child increases and child benefits, etc) for nothing with practically zero expenses when the average wage back home is what, 300eur pm with prices going through the roof.... Would you decline such an opportunity to save a bit of money while doing nothing? I doubt anyone would and only the Irish government is to blame really as people in general will always be doing what's best of themselves.

*"While we own everything"

The utter madness at play in this country is only going to stop when people take action at local level and individual level.

I was at an appointment this morning, waiting outside to be called in and what do I see right in front me 🤔 three of about 50 properties in Tullamore, lying in this state for at least 8 years .

RTE not allowed in to film the conditions in the airport, how convenient for government and RTE.

I'd love RTE to ask a Ukrainian arrival why didn't they stay in the first country they arrived in outside Ukriane, or you know Ireland can't handle all the immigration?, as as have no accommodation for Native Irish people never mind immigrants. So why are you coming here?

One of the most expensive countries in the world, Switzerland's welfare payments to those seeking temporary protection is €508 per month, this does not include food.

Ireland has it at €208 x 52/12 = €901 monthly.

France: €204 monthly

Germany: €330 monthly

Czech Republic : 5,000 Czech korunas (CZK) monthly for 5 months only.

Cyprus: €340 one-off payment.

Interestingly, there was a referendum in 2017 in regards to those payments: "Voters in Zurich decided in 2017 to lower welfare payments to refugees to around 500 Swiss francs ($522) per month, 30% below standard social welfare levels."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-refugees-queue-food-wealthy-switzerland-2022-04-23/

If Pearce Doherty wasn't so woke he would walk the next election. A great speaker and could rally a crowd. We need someone to stand up for the working man and women. Not just spout lefty soundbites about more welfare ect.

Because majority do zero research and are not aware of what's really going on in Ireland - unable to google properly or spend hours and hours reading places like boards considering poor English. However the grapevine is working really well transmitting the info about level of benefits being paid out, even in FB group dedicated to helping Ukrainians there are still posts like don't worry, come to Ireland, you won't be living in the streets as they'll find you somewhere to live.

Staying in poor Moldova or even Poland? There is possibly more accommodation there but I don't think it's free unless you live with a family hosting you + practically no benefits or none that would be enough to cover food. For example Poland pays 180eur pm for 4 months and after that you either get a job or I don't know what. Moldova would be even worse. Poland is cheaper than Ireland but 180 per month is nothing there. So of course people looking at all these numbers would choose Ireland considering all of the above. I know I would.

SF's primary agenda/platform is something that in real terms, people down here don't care about - Irish unification.

We have enough problems here (even before the events of the last 3/4 months), we certainly aren't ready to integrate and compromise with Unionists, and we definitely don't want to pay for it.

They appeal to the "protest everything" sort, but for Middle Ireland and SMEs (who pay for and provide everything) they offer nothing.

I care about it in so far as I’d like to see it- day to day though I couldn’t care less. If it happens it happens basically- far more worried about paying my mortgage etc

Confident that’s a typical view too

Wants pps numbers doled out immediately to all “asylum” seekers. Sounds great yes, fastrack to full welfare and state handouts- control our borders NOW