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FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,422 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    There are those here who want this to keep happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,422 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Weren’t there long arguments here about winning and losing elections?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Oh me neither. The reluctance to work with them will be difficult to overcome but I struggle to see an alternative government forming if things stay as they are. Wouldn't rule out multiple elections. One way or another I think it would be unhealthy for a party with that much support not to end up in government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Its not comparable. Giving someone food because they've no other means is not depriving any shop of a sale. The same goes for giving shelter to someone with none or any access to it. If a shop keeper start charging ridiculous unaffordable prices people will go elsewhere. Nothing is rigged like housing, except maybe insurance.

    The government effect on housing is going as they'd like, otherwise they'd do something different I'd imagine, but they don't despite it getting worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    One way or another I think it would be unhealthy for a party with that much support not to end up in government.

    Sure but in that scenario it will be incumbent on them to able to walk the walk and to persuade people to work with them. Nobody will talk to us is really not a good negotiating position and compromise is going to be part of any deal. That said they are incompatible on policies with both FG and the Greens and only the Albhabetti will swallow their tax proposals. So it would be a tough road, fraught with difficulties, not least of which is the risk of disappointing their army of new supporters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,422 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Will be interesting what festers now over recess. A bruising MONC for all 3 coalition partners and a terrible poll this AM

    Going to be a lot to ponder for more than backbenchers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Lovely report just on Sky news, Tent City in Gormanstown, Debacle at Dublin Airport (not the flights or baggage ones) , state has run out of emergency accommodation etc

    Government Spin Machine won't like this one bit after months of a Virtue Signalling Campaign .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    They'd swear Black was white

    Blaming the NEW UK asylum policy that's barely got of the ground, utterly preposterous.

    This mess was predicted months ago .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000


    Some one needs to wake up Eamonn Ryan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Quelle surprise. It's never the governments fault, luckily they have someone/something else to blame.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    The government being mocked for its silliness and rightly so 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    If they're being criticised by those outside of Ireland in that fashion they may pay attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Possibly, they don't take any notice of criticism in Ireland 😏, image abroad 8s all that relevant, re future personal ambitions , so to speak .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    We are certainly living up to our thick paddy name thanks to the ridiculous naivety of our government trying to please the EU .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    MM has single handidly Promoted the conservatives Asylum policy, could he be Sir Michael in the new years honours list.

    His comments and blame game getting some reaction in the UK , even mention of the Potatoe Famine.

    Well done MM we look like completre Gobshytes thanks to your ridiculous comments. 🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I'm curious if those how pronounce at every possible opportunity that the government only cares about how they look in the EU so that they can pick up plush jobs afterwards could list a) all those in government who have moved to these jobs and b) how many of those were appointed by the EU as opposed to nominated by the Irish government?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,422 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Couldn't believe that was Pat Carey FF popping up in that report about the Ukrainians, now with the Irish Red Cross.

    Remember Pat? Had a colourful end to his career in politics had Pat. The bad old days of FF?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    In case anyone on this thread is interested excellent scheme announced today by government and can hopefully help to regenerate towns across ireladn


    more information here:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c2183-croi-conaithe-towns-fund/#



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    "Such as?"

    Do you mean where could they build? Well for a start, the developers could use the land that they are hoarding. After that, there are plenty of places to choose from. I'm not being smart saying that, they know before they applym= which ones are goung to receive objections, and why.

    "The objections are not without merit if your goal is to maintain the value of your home and limit those who can live in your area."

    That's true, but not always the reason. There are many many other legit reasons for objecting, scenery, traffic, wildlife to name a few. It's not always about somebody trying to maintain their house price value.

    "And every last politician panders to this nonsense because there is no reason for them to care about non-constituents looking for a home over homeowners who already live there."

    I am not sure I would agree with that. I have seen the housing ministers constituency more than treble the developments for anybody (including non-constituents) that wants one. Taking into account that much of his constituency is considered 'the bread basket of Ireland' and a lot of livelihoods out there, Swords is creeping out further and further for example. I'm pretty sure his own hometown is also being developed all over, despite objections from the locals on many of them, whose homes would definitely lower in value once many of them are built. But that area is an odd one anyway, They just seem to vote FF FG no matter who it is in.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    lots of movement today. Are we still blaming the opposition for this farce or has the script changed now. I did see mention of the UK being at fault. Tents for all. Gonna be lovely in winter think of Glastonbury 10x the mud. Sky news even picking up the story. 🤔



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    As expected brought to you by the minister that does not do housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,726 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    So no one has won a GE election in Ireland since 1977 and while it looks like overall majorities are now a thing of history, no party in the future will ever 'win' a GE?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I can only think MM looking for a Knighthood from Boris before he goes after essentially validating his Asylum seeker policy.. It was an extraordinary statement to make, given this car crash was predicted months ago and obviously has literally nothing to do with anything other than ineptitude and incompetence.

    MM has essentially promoted that ghastly Rwanda policy, the right wing are having a field day.

    Arrise Sir Michael.

    Serious own Goal

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    It's Gas to be fair they scream about the rise of the right wing. Yet their the ones making the Right wing viable. Screw over Your own people long enough that's their only option. It's sad as it's totally expected what will happen. 🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Did you post the wrong link?

    You:

    "MM has essentially promoted that ghastly Rwanda policy, the right wing are having a field day."

    Tweet:

    "Irish prime minister calls UK's Rwanda scheme for asylum seekers 'shocking' and 'wrong'"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I know MM was scrambling late last night when news was breaking and Irish media, including government press office (RTE) Were running stories this morning. He went head first into blaming everyonr but him and his government, it was shocking and he was that Niaeve he played on the ongoing friction on Brexit and NI thinking people would accept his absurd nonsense, very embarrassing and actually disgraceful cheap shot.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭hunter2000


    MM is a disgrace



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,000 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    No, I posted the Sky news report on him blaming UK asylum policy on this Cluster****, it has absolutely nothing to do with a NEW asylum policy that's barely operational a wet week and his comments have infact validated the Vile Rwanda policy and the right wing loonies in the UK having a field day essentially saying look, its working, the Irish PM, says so.

    Hope that clears up what I was saying

    Deeply troubling comments from the Taoiseach who's so out of touch with reality its hard to comprehend.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    And seemingly you are the one that doesn’t understand Irish politics 🤣🤣



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