Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Well, that's the conspiracy, a group hiding information, because all public information indicates no safety issues, that's what you've outlined but are now backing away from going any further in case you're wrong.

hometruths has all the data they need, they just can't put it together, they have literally come into the forum and trying to get other people to prove their own little fantasy (under their 3rd name) when they don't have a smidgen of the knowledge needed to do it themselves. This is on top of them misunderstanding the data that is presented (including on severity) hence they will have to do it all themselves from now on, which they're either unable or afraid to do.

With vaccines it is a bit pointless, the vaccine leaves the body after a couple of days leaving no traces other than the Antibodies the immune system creates and memorises, hence it would be really weird AND new science if something long term occurred.

However, things like immune fatigue are real and why we need to be sure the dosing is correct (every 6-12 months seems fine after the initial schedule, I'd worry about a monthly schedule and so do the EMA) and Covid itself is mutating and able to reinfect more often which can also lead to fatigue which can be dangerous for some people (especially if they've been ill with something else as well.

However, that doesn't count out the nefarious reasons angle (chips, 5g and whatnot) but isn't really a safety issue (it would be a really dumb way to do it, putting the same imaginary technology in Ivermectin would target those ITK more directly, hence why it isn't a plausible conspiracy). The GMO angle is also weird given the origin of mRNA tech (and the fact that non mRNA vaccines are available anyway).

From a science perspective, mRNA is very exciting and could eliminate many common diseases.

It's also why some of the arguments on here end up being nonsensical as it would require a belief in magic or a brand new science area to be discovered, there's no known mechanism where a treatment could be 95% effective at reducing symptoms but be ineffective against severe symptoms yet it was argued here for days if not weeks (hence me not getting into proving known science correct anymore, it's incumbent on the person with the belief to bring their evidence and crucially accept it if the evidence was misread as it often is).

There was someone making a bet that I would die within 5 years from the vaccines, what rational person would do that? Do they really think that 90% of the western world will be depopulated by different vaccines from different companies?

All anti vaxxers seem to know loads of people who were on deaths before after the vaccine. It’s really weird because the vast majority of people don’t know anyone who had more than mild symptoms.

People die all the time. Most of them vaccinated these days. However, very few are related to the vaccine.

Was it you who thought the vaccine was the mark of the beast, or was it they they were being used to depopulate the world, or both?

Is there a full moon tonight?

Well, you were bouncing around everywhere each time you ran out of road (remembering the global spin conspiracy you abandoned?), however the data in the clinical trials was comprehensive, if you want to know what you've misunderstood you just have to admit you were wrong if positive efficacy was proven in the trials.

Lol you're pretty desperate to change the subject there dude.

Since that's the case and you're once again ignoring points you're conceding them.

You've nothing to support the notion that 40.000 to several million vaccine deaths is plausible. You've no reason to think they are plausible other than you don't like vaccines.

Likewise You've nothing to support your claim that low estimates like 3000 vaccine deaths are implausible. You only claim that because you don't want to accept that.

You also concede that you are unable to explain how experts and organisations are somehow missing or not noticing the 40.000 plus vaccine deaths.

As predicted when you backed yourself into a corner with your false claims, you start ignoring and dodge and trying to weasel to another topic.

Or an old topic it seems cause you're trying to go back to one you were previously dishonest about, weren't able to address any points about and ran away from.

There's no such thing as extreme pro vaxxers though, man.

The guy you're quoting literally just said that they believe that the vaccines are part of the plot to introduce the literal mark of the beast from the Bible.

Do you think that's "moderate thinking"?

Do you believe his claim about the mark of the beast?

Also I also previously showed that vaccines were safe because no one I know died or had any severe reactions.

Why are you not convinced by that?

Lol it's like 2 or 3 posts behind yours.

But you dodge the questions I asked.

Is thay a moderate position in your view? Do you agree with it?

Also I keep telling you that no one I know had any severe effects. So that proves that the vaccines are safe.