Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Plenty of creches. I'm sure plenty are already qualified. I don't think they are coming from a jungle. They had some form of civilization over there before the Russians started bombing the sh1te out of them.

And sure even if not they can spend 12 months getting qualified at their leisure while swanning around on your free 200 big ones a week. Plenty of time in between abandoning brand new buggies at bus stops and bringing the Ferrari out for a spin. Although, spending their way through those 200 fine Euros will probably take up most of their waking time.

Man you are clutching at straws. Focus on improving yourself rather than thinking of ways to keep others down. Everyone can improve regardless of where they are now. Whether you are at the top or the bottom, you can be better tomorrow. Don't be punching down

Whatever. I am sure they have the concept of creches in Ukraine and I am sure out of all of the women coming here that plenty are qualified child minders.

Stop trying to think of excuses to hide whatever your real motivation is. You're welcome to live in a tent if you want.

The 3.5 billion to be shared across the EU is a first tranche budget total. 10 billion was mentioned as an initial EU budget of which was to be shared across members. More money is being asked for by member states.

It's not open to the public; it was defunct before and has been repurposed for the refugees. I'm simply relaying the message from a good friend about her walks on the beach - actually, I'm not sure that the folks she runs into have zero English, they've probably got a little by now.

I do think you're sounding a bit envious there though. Do you think I'm being dishonest? If you'd like, in a few days I can take a photo with the name of the hotel obscured showing the bikes and swing set.

The thing is the vast majority of people have no idea what is going on.

In September parents who have been trying for years to get their kids into a school will be hearing about Ukrainians in the school.

Students and parents of students when college kids can't get any accommodation close to college.

December when the health service crashes due to Covid where last year the unvaccinated were to blame and now we have invited huge numbers of people from a country who had a very low vaccine uptake.

The government are in huge trouble and they seem totally unaware of it.

I'm actually thrilled to hear all these contrasting stories of Happiness and contentment , it throws a light on those Refugees, not so fortunate , contented and living in idyllic surroundings, you know the ones that don't get all these lucky bags, Goodies a friendly smiles from the locals.

What they get is contempt from the very communities who trip over themselves trying to out do each other, showering sanctimony, Fluffyness , virtue signalling in one very specific direction., whilst also seemingly ignoring the plight of those actually living in their communities for decades.

It's called Hypocrisy and it's disgusting.

So thank you for highlighting the contrast in how a certain cohort of Refugee is treated , very my helpful indeed .

This may have been true earlier on in this Debacle because of spin and deflection, this is certainly not the case now and I suspect the vast majority of the Population, now fully aware of exactly whats going on and its this and negative press that has Government Panicked , not mind you that they care less about what people in Ireland think, more those nasty international media organisations reporting on this farce.

But I agree whole heartedly re your sentiments about school placements. I live in a very small community with a lot of children due to start school in September, I'm not a parent but know many who are Livid as places are now in doubt due to the accomodation of Ukrainian children. This is not the children's fault of course , Government have no intention of supplying extra class space, Teachers and literally expect schools and parents to suck it up , this will soon become subject of very heated debate.

This local support is temporary and will stop at some stage, which will leave the Ukrainians confused and resentful.

If we get the predicted massive influx of refugees from other parts of the world this winter then the virtual signalling will move on to the new refugees. A lot of the government supports for the Ukrainians will also stop at this stage and be transferred to the new groups. It’s what you get when migration is unplanned and disorganised.

You are correct in many respects apart from one, virtue signalling will not move on to other refugees, it's never existed before in Ireland, its essentially a new Phenomenon and squarely directed at one specific cohort or Refugee and Ironically it's that Virtue signalling nonsense that has in many respects actually highlighted the Inequality rampant in Ireland and elsewhere and I might add , not just when it comes to "other' refugees, but our own citizens.

'More than 40,000 Ukrainians have arrived in Ireland since February. There has also been an increase in International Protection applicants from other countries to Ireland, with 7,080 applicants up to July 13. There were 2,648 applicants in all of 2021.'

Not at all , trying to get definitive numbers on those who've return home "Fully " as opposed to weekend jollys almost impossible to get. At a guess very, very, very few have return to Ukraine Fully, nor are many likely to do so, why would they, they've everything they need and more in Ireland 😏

Why would you return with what’s on offer here? Ukraine was bankrupt even before the war. Desperately poorly ran country for decades. Suddenly that’s all our responsibility

I'm not entirely sure what your referring to "Those who are concerned about those who don't get enough on SW" , I don't recall any poster on this thread having such concerns albeit given the current cost of living crisis perhaps a new Thread could be considered.

There's certainly been numerous posts re the ease of how Government could lash out FULL SW entitlements , The normal criteria being waived, Ignored , the Lack of verification going on , The lashing out of PPS numbers, unnecessarily, the Eligibility criteria put in front of Normal SW recipients, ignored for Ukrainian refugees but not other refugees, the ability to retain FULL payments whilst getting free food and Board , Others have to make do, pay their rents, mortgages and heavens above pay for food and bills , the ease of which Ukrainian Refugees can head off back home willy nilly with no travel restrictions, Normal Jobseekers certainly can not .

Shall I continue............🤔

People have concerns about the free for all and inequality in terms of how they are treated and a blatant discriminatory TWO TIER SUPPORTS SYSTEM , not that maybe one cohort gets more than another, don't conflate the two .

Yes i agree they have more than enough here and many are incredibly grateful

They are not the ones on FB but are simply getting on and trying their best to settle into a strange life. They are not whining or pleading etc but understand that they are safe and cared for

The two kids in the family we look after are amazing , trying their best to integrate into life but yearning for their school , their friends , their sport clubs etc . One lad when brought to school here was incredibly grateful and happy but in his eyes I could see a longing for the familiarity of his school at home . Totally understandable and we must realise how difficult this is for families

I wish you could meet the family we care for and hear their anguish and their story