"Green" policies are destroying this country

It would not impact the economy one jot……except for putting all the farmers and their families on the dole!!! 😂

Probably the most ignorant comment yet.

We can all live on multinational corporations tax efficiency operations? Who is going to feed our neighbours, the Brits? Are we to turn the countryside over to solar panels, wind turbines, forest and wolves?

When goods don't cross borders, armies do! The UK has massive inward immigration, and now have a population of 67 million people. If they can't feed their people and they see land being wasted, they are coming across the border. In the recent census Ireland had a population of 5.1 million on 03 April 2022 – an increase of 7.6% from Census 2016. At present across the EU we have elected the most stupid politicians to power in a long time, the population is growing due to massive inward migration, while at the same time agricultural production is being deliberately cut due to the pursuit of multiple energy and agricultural policies that make scarcity inevitable.

There are other consequences, the government pushes native farmers out, that land is not going to sit idle, we are an open economy, one of those consequences, is going to align with the same issue that affects the housing markets, whereby foreign capital outbids the native population and the issue of housing is already causing significant rising political instability, not just in Ireland.

Whatever chance we have of getting through this with any reminants of civilization intact, the chances of convincing every country to abandon consumerism is practically zero at this point, so the alternative is to promote sustainable consumption with regulations on industry to force producers to be responsible for the pollution and end of life of the products they sell

To do this we need to demand better regulations from our political institutions.

The so called libertarians will object of course but if they got their way we'd be so much worse off than we are today

It`s getting to be a strange old world. We had the EU Commissioner for Agriculture in town a few weeks ago telling farmers the EU had no wish to cut herd numbers, and food security was their concern. Yet here we have the EU importing 540 millions worth of beef from Brazil and Ryan wants to cut our herd by 30%.

That must be very confusing for farmers, as I`m sure they most also be confused as to how they did not see what Ryan has identified. That they could somehow all along have had herds 30% or more smaller and still have had higher incomes.

Their really is no end to the bulls**t that lad comes out with.

"Lets not forget that we could eliminate our agricultural sector and it would impact the Irish economy not one jot. "

"Controversial but true"

Seriously how do some green advocates expect people to fall for this level of misinformation?

Not only is the above untrue - it bears absolutely no resemblance to reality. Especially when such information can be easily checked

A quick look at the agriculture sector and that sectors importance to the Irish economy

"In economic terms, the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine estimates that in 2019 the agri-food sector in Ireland contributed €14.4 billion to the national economy, generated 4.3% of gross value added and provided 7.1% of national employment (Department of Agriculture, Food and Marine, 2020)"

The agriculture and food industry is Ireland’s largest indigenous sector. It is of major importance to the economic welfare and development of the Nation and central to the socio-economic vitality of rural communities. It accounts for over half of the country’s indigenous exports and almost one-tenth of the economy.(www.teagasc.ie)

It may be news but Ireland has few if any sectors of the economy which produce solely for "domestic consumption". Whatever the feck that means. Also worth noting cattle numbers in the country are already down decade on decade from the 1970s.

And neither are water quality nor emissions the sole reserves of the agriculture sector. Water quality in Ireland is significantly impacted by waste water and sewage disposal from municipal waste systems. But funnily enough nowt a word about that.

Perhaps you also forgot that the largest proportion of greenhouse gases in Ireland comes from the transport and energy sectors accounting for some 59% of Irelands total ghg emissions.

Look we get it. The green party et al would love to shut down farming in this country. Thing is - it's not going to happen regardless of any ERs wet dreams of herding people into suburban ghettos growing lettuce in window boxes with wolves inhabiting large areas of the country where people used to live and wwork Pure utter manure.

This is one of the things most likely to cause an election IMO. You have FF TDs telling Martin to resign and saying that they won't be supporting a changeover to Leo as Taoiseach in December if Martin is still in charge. They have looked at the numbers and know that the only chance they have of surviving in their, mostly rural, constituencies is collapsing the government over something like this, and going full on anti green in an attempt to get re-elected.

Edit: For those that think this is fanciful, governments have fallen over such stupid seeming things in the past. In 1982, FG actually fell out of power because they attempted to introduce VAT on children's shoes.

I would see it as more likely FG and FF TD`s looking at the polling figures for the GP and seeing that if there is no votes in this full on greening for the GP then there is even less in it for either of them. The opposite being more likely.

Lol! Oh dear.

Can your entry level EV get me from dublin to waterford and back without recharging?

We have two national cow herds, a beef and a dairy herd. A few around here have a hard-on for beef as if by stopping people eating meat it is the answer to all woes. The two screen shots above are from CSO surveys. We had 1,082,500 Beef cows in Dec 2013 by June 2021 that figure had declined to 940,300. A decline of 142,300 beef cows (13.14%). Between June 2020 and June 2021 alone there was a decline of 40,000 (4.4%)

While our beef cow herd declined by 4.4%, for the same year the EU imported 540 millions worth of beef from the slash and burn merchants of Brazil and shipped it half way around the world and comedians on here tell us we will be severely fined by the EU if we do not listen to Ryan and reduce our herd size because of our carbon footprint.

It`s complete and utter insane bull manure, and before you start whittling on about dairy cows, maybe have a little think about EU policy on that from the same time-frame.