Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

I was nearly banned off Boards some time ago when I dared to mention that within a week of the war starting in Ukraine Zelenskyy opened the prison gates and armed the convicts to help defend their country. Some of these criminals were doing long stretches for serious crimes and some will no doubt reoffend. The vast majority did not hang around to be rearrested once the was was over - they headed west across the border thru unofficial back roads etc. with false papers / identities etc. some of soldiers of same age etc. who were killed. Ukraine was well known long before the war ever started as the most corrupt country in the western world - it is not possible for the leopard to change it's spots overnight !

On a seperate note it's interesting to note that it's possible to book a holiday in Kyiv on the Expedia website - a week for 2, first week of August costs €1,460 in Intercontinental & €498.00 in Raddison Blu ! It seems to be business as usual in the western part of Ukraine, the war is concentrated in the east - perhaps our goverment should block book the Raddison & similar hotels in Kyiv for say 9 months and encourage repatriation !

You seem to believe this is entirely people's fault, I don't agree in the slightest for the many reasons I've point out. Of course there may be some who did not wish to go through garda vetting for numerous reasons and that's their entitlement, but I suspect very very few didn't wish to go through the process unless the country is awash with vagabonds and dastardly inviduals who have a accommodation to offer.

But just as an aside its a little rich the RC belatedly bringing up this latest fairytale given the "nothing to see here" attitude towards very questionable accommodation arrangements going on across SM and whilst not their responsibility their incompetence led to alot of this carry on.

Meanwhile, whilst all this sudden concern about garda vetting going on, few Ukrainian refugees entering Ireland, have been vetted but at least, safe garding interventions are taking place now at ports of Entry, but I do wonder what if any follow ups are taking place, I suspect very, very little.

A lot of inconsistencies evident I'm afraid.

One thing that really will have serious knock-on effects - particularly here - is the no-checks, open border response to the invasion.

We have no idea who we're scrambling to provide stuff for, and yet we're garda vetting people who are settled and known here in most cases all their lives.

We haven't even gotten to the stage of post-war traumatised ex-soldiers looking to join family here, and the problems THAT will cause!

But it seems the attitude generally among the politicians, media, and advocates is to not mention these things - "Shure it'll be grand!", right??

Dempo, the poster was wondering why there might be vetting. Not talking about how the vetting was being done.

I'm aware of what the poster was asking, it's your response I found bewildering.

Have you been observing " The Coordination" of late.

You don't think the State could be liable if it shipped out out a couple of young women who can't speak English out to the home of someone who was convicted of trafficking women into prostitution for example? Perhaps maybe a 19 year old girl out to the house of a serial rapist just out of jail?

You do understand that this stuff - the tent villages, the hotels out in Citywest, sleeping in the old airport building, are being done by state bodies. It isn't random Ukrainians that are all coming in independently and spontanrously coming to the exact same idea that Gormanston would be a nice place to pitch a tent. Did you not even suspect that there might be some State involvement in that?

I wasn't straying into another area. That is the area that answered the posters question as to why people would be being vetted to take Ukrainians even though he can airbnb his house (or whatever their confusion was)

People are leaving because we (EU taxpayer) pays them 4 time's more for not working then working in Ukrianie. Its a no brainer.

2022 and Ireland is the Klondike, Ukrianinans are the prospectors, and the gold is our generous welfare.

Thats a great point regarding hotels getting massive money.

Will the ordinary Joe's be happy to give someone a room when hotels are creaming it. I know they will get 400 euro eventually as a sweetner. The people giving these rooms are moving the que, on and then 'theres nothing to see here' policy from government saying it's all good we have room keep coming.

So RC who are tax payer funded, get joe who's tax payer funded (400) to move the Ukrainian que so the Hotels (who are now tax payer funded) can process more people. Its all a big scam.

Suspension of EU migration rules here has finally started in order to curb the abuse of the system