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Westworld (HBO/Sky Atlantic) [** Spoilers **]

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    #2522
    corkie
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭corkie


    https://westworld.fandom.com/wiki/Well_Enough_Alone

    They haven't posted the breakdown for prior episode yet.

    Just watching the second episode now.

    It seems to be just a rehash of concept and themes from earlier seasons.

    Post edited by corkie on


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    #2523
    pjcb
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb


    so confused with the swap of aims from nearly every character...



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    #2524
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4.2: I like this! I mean.. I don't know what's going on.. big picture .. but I'm pretty sure I'm guessing a lot of the small pictures.

    The man in black opening each episode as dark as this might be something to bring back some audience.. or not.. who knows.


    I am guessing Dolores being in her current state may be a sign that she's way powerful. Mad how.. Hale? is she still Hale? HostHale? is masterminding something. Something like making everyone drones.

    Still though.. as big as whatever they do is gonna get .. maybe the show is still gonna get to a Maeve Delores showdown. Like maybe.. or not.. again.. who knows

    Feels good that the show keeps me guessing



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    #2525
    BruteStock
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    The DEA agent from Con Air is all that stood out from that episode. Everything else was just boring



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    #2526
    sioda
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    They are gonna regret keeping William on ice



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    #2527
    CastorTroy
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    So Cyclops beat up Pyro last week.

    Could New Dolores's current world be virtual which is how she's picking up these stories?

    So the flies are some kind of mind control thing that makes the victim go crazy?



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    #2528
    DrZeuss
    Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    I don't feel I'm enjoying this at all, it feels like its confusion for the sake of confusion. Too many different stories and, characters that could be host or real or possibly stuck in a computer generated world.

    Also the William on ice moment....why. Its just feels like bad story writing when they kill other real folk but keep certain characters on ice for....to wake up and get revenge of course.



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    #2529
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,544 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Bit of action in last nights episode but TBH I don't get half of whats going on in it.



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    #2530
    corkie
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭corkie


    https://westworld.fandom.com/wiki/Ann%C3%A9es_Folles

    Same opinion as last week, they keep rehashing things from past seasons. Confusing episode.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/922598/westworld-season-4-episode-3-roars-into-the-1920s-with-annees-folles/




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    #2531
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4.3: Uh oh!

    It did occur to me that the second layer could easily not be real too since the first wasn't.. but the trap was good enough either way.

    Seems to me that there's more than one Man in Black Bot.

    Not sure how things are gonna pan out with Maeve but looks like Bernard got some heavy lifting to do.

    Solid Mystery Episode all the same.



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    #2532
    DenMan
    Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Thank God Bernard is back, him and Maeve are the best things on this show. Charlotte and William are boring me big time.



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    #2533
    sioda
    Registered Users Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭sioda


    Yup I liked that it's building nicely WW is always a slow burn so not too worried.


    Are we going to find out how Stubbs survived?


    Flied Kaleb will be I interesting where they take it from here for him.

    Again loved the player piano music.



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    #2534
    DrZeuss
    Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    Agree with Corkie above, just seems to be rehashing bits from past seasons. There's no, can't wait for the next episode, feeling about this season.

    Also...

    It looks like there might be at least 2 timelines.

    The one with Caleb (and his young daughter) and Maeve, and the one with Stubbs, Bernard and Caleb's older daughter.

    Also It looks like Caleb was in fact a human, and with the flies added now I wonder will Maeve be able to take control of them and make him super-human.

    Again, I don't think I'm really enjoying this but I'm still just hanging on in there in the hope of a return to Season 1'ness.



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    #2535
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,403 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Yeah I have to say I'm finding this season flat out bad, it's confusing and not in a suspenseful or compelling way, and none of it feels very convincing.

    There's a few good individual moments here and there, but overall this is light years away from the quality of the first season. I had hoped for at least an improvement on S3 but so far it's just more of the same.



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    #2536
    corkie
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭corkie


    https://westworld.fandom.com/wiki/Generation_Loss

    At least this episode didn't have rehashes of earlier seasons. And had a good twist.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/929843/in-westworld-season-4-episode-4-generation-loss-gains-new-meaning/




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    #2537
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,979 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    so going from the last few episodes, is it worth watching Season 4 or better off waiting for it all to air and binge watch?



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    #2538
    corkie
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭corkie


    8 Episode season, at this stage probably better off binging when all have aired. Also should know by comments if it is even worth watching at all.



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    #2539
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 29,043 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I think this is a show that works as weekly due to the amount of thinking they expect from viewers. Or may just feel more of a slog to get through multiple episodes at a time.

    As for this episode, so we're down to 2 timelines now? 1 being Bernard/Charlotte/Caleb and the other being Christina, though I still think that's some kind of virtual world or something.



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    #2540
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,979 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119355697#Comment_119355697

    Yeah going from comments from last few episodes seems kind of hit and miss. I might just end up watching the first 4 episodes this week, most of my shows on break anyway so needed something new to watch



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    #2541
    DrZeuss
    Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    I thought that was a terrible episode and the twist didn't feel like it landed properly, even the lead up fell flat.

    The one last decent character (Caleb) has been a goner now 20 odd years and who I thought the show was trying to portray as possibly someone who could save humanity but alas no.

    So who's left that's neither a robot or dead or a dead robot?

    Caleb's daughter is my guess, a character we know practically nothing about and have very little attachment to (eg if she was killed off in the next episode it wouldn't matter to the audience)

    I'll give it one more episode before I call it a day, but I honestly can't see where it can go from here to redeem itself.

    Also, was Aaron Paul auditioning for Christopher Nolan's Batman in this episode? 🙄



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    #2542
    AlmightyCushion
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119356302#Comment_119356302

    All the people walking around aren't dead or a robot. They are under Charlotte's control though. Stopping her and freeing mankind is what Bernard and Caleb's daughter are trying to do. I assume robot Caleb will have a part to play in it as well



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    #2543
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4.4: Outstanding! That was great! Best episode of the season so far!

    I just knew there was something up from the get-go with the first scene being a tactical op and Maeve loaded out 5.11 Hexgrid Plate Carrier!

    Whew! Thandiwe Newton! What a performance! What a way to go! I really felt in that moment. Aaron Paul backed it up just right too.

    Loved the way the show nodded to the Delores/Christina storyline just in passing as Caleb ran out the front of the Olympiad building.

    Definitely doubling down on Bernard going to need to do some heavy lifting. Done so well how he's confident but not 100% sure.

    Really liked how they brought the two timelines together.



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    #2544
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    heh 🙂

    I put the credits on again because I wanted to listen to that piano music again and couldn't find it anywhere else.

    At the closing HBO logo... they did something... the rejigged it to sound a little like the ominous music.. maybe.. I think

    I went back and checked 3 2 and 1 and it was the regular logo there.

    Made the (what.. 2 second? 🙂) HBO logo sound a little like this:

    Freeze All Motor Functions · Ramin Djawadi

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Hcto0fedk


    and that's fine.. just fine 🙂



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    #2545
    Slydice
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    Oh! Actually.. now that I think of the name of the song and

    all the people freezing in the closing scene! ha! gas! 😁



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    #2546
    BruteStock
    Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    The whipping boy , mansel-in-distress character Arron Paul plays was boring last season , now its just tedious. Sick of him!

    The show-runners clearly feel they have to write every season like the first. The formula worked like a charm for Season 1 but it failed the two seasons and it's failing again now. They were better off delivering a straightforward narrative instead of trying to recreate the magic of S1 because this season may be the worst yet. Its awful.


    When the mystery isn't engaging or interesting , then the reveal falls flat when it comes. That's the case here. There isn't any reason to care about anybody.

    The ratings are in the toilet too. I wouldn't be surprised if it wraps up with episode 8 because it ain't coming back for Season 5



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    #2547
    Mormegil
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119355739#Comment_119355739

    No it's all in the same timeline now (probably).


    Christina's roommate's dream of being attacked by flies as a child places them the same 23 years later that Host Caleb finds himself at the end (we also see that the Olympiad Publishing Building where Christina works is in fact Hales base of operations).






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    #2548
    CastorTroy
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    Ah couldn't remember that was where sure worked, especially when she did that painting which seemed like she had a vision.



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    #2549
    DrZeuss
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119356419#Comment_119356419

    The problem there is, and @BruteStock mentioned it too, we haven't been given any reason to care about any of the characters.

    Bernard is a robot, and one that seemingly knows the future now. And Calebs daughter we know so little about, if she met an untimely death it'd fall flat too.



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    #2550
    CastorTroy
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    Bernard just seems like a cheat character now. Like no need to figure things out and just have him know everything. This can also be a good thing since could drag things out otherwise.



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    #2551
    Galwayguy35
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    Thought that episode was excellent, last season wasn't great but this one is much better.



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