Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

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Middle finger too, if Irish

Yeah but we are kind of conditioned to accept that.

Yeah, can't do much about that without about being accused of being racist or phobic etc....

Well they won’t be caught this side.

That Independent.ie article on the requirement of refugees (excluding Ukrainian refugees) to require a visa for entry to Ireland.. am I reading it wrong? My initial take on it seems to imply it's the right thing to do. It sounds like we're finally trying to place some control on our borders in deference to what other EU countries are doing.

I wasn't aware refugees that had been granted refugee status in one country could travel to another country visa free for three months. And it's the arrival in this other country.. no doubt somewhere with more favorable conditions/supports.. where they apply for refugee status again wherein lies the abuse of the system.

It seems to me it's at least a step in the right direction and might eventually lead to the long overdue checks on those Ukrainian 'refugees' that are equally abusing the system.

A lot have driven here with the car stuffed full.

I don’t have figures, but I see Ukrainian cars every day in a small town in the West. The point being that you ridiculed the idea that any weapons could be in the country, but it is a possibility.

Not quite, they've suspended visa requirements for Refugees, specially those from Ukraine.

But here's the glaringly obvious problem, apart from the fact there's no room at Inn.

We absolutely know there's little or no, Vetting, checking or verifications at ports of entry for those travelling under the EU Virtue Signalling Directive, with the exception and rightly so, of Child safe garding and protection measures, I do however remain concerned at follow up and tracing measures.

The absurd Directive has so many holes in it, it permits those, alledgedly with the vaguest connection to Ukraine (which is near impossible to verify) to gain entry. At a minimum this has facilated anyone, and I mean anyone, hop on a plane, Ferry or Drive to Ireland from anywhere and I mean anywhere claiming to be covered under the EU Directive. Whilst I'll accept obtaining a Visa would be challenging for any Ukrainian Citizen, this I'm afraid is a poor excuse and at a minimum, those actually leaving Ukraine, should have been furnished with a verifiable Document from the Ukrainian Authorities, who just seem to be delighted their own people are not their problem.

Far stricter controls were required from the Outset and even the most determined optomist could see from the start, unfettered access in a chaotic situation was going to lead and encourage Shenanigans.

I don't blame Ukrainian Refugees, I squarely blame the EU, Ukrainian Government and our hapless government, who've essentially ignored the warning signs and actively encouraged mass migration. As I've said from the outset, one could forgive mistakes at the start, but near 6 months of gross incompetence and dare I say negligence, is utterly unforgiveable.

Appropriate Accommodation, I need say no more.

Whatever way you roll the dice one would have to be exceptionally naive to believe that all Ukrainians arriving here are fleeing war .It is not prudent to have an open gate policy that will allow undocumented people to enter a country .It will be impossible now to determine the identity or location of many individuals who arrived here with nothing .It happened in 1980 during the Mariel boat lift from Cuba to USA.Every country in the world has border controls some more robust than others The countries with weaker controls will always suffer as a result both socially and economically .

Far too late Britain did this in 1986. France circa 2003. Ireland when it’s flooded ffs.