Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

This may well evolve into a full revamp of the EU migration rules for stricter controls by member states.

Firstly the clear abuse of the system by many from outside the EU,the predicted mass movement of people from North Africa over the next ten years and the continuing threat from terrorist groups.

This move by our government clearly show that the government are fully aware of the problem and are finally going to address it with the vast majority of Irish citizens wanting more robust controls put in place .

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0719/1310989-gormanston-refugees/

I'm fully aware of whats going on in Gormanstown as you well know , I was referring to long term and the virtue signalling that will halt this , particularly nearer to September when more Hotels will come on stream, I can almost hear the hoteliers hands rubbing gleefully.

Interesting no Photos yet of the Arrivals at Gormanstown this morning 🤔

Also Interesting Roderic O Gorman this morning, at pains to emphasise folks being sent here will stay there for a MAXIMUM of a week 🤔 he also admitted for the first time a similar set up being constructed at City West, but of course the dogs on the street knew this for over a week . Gosh, I do hope they are putting in padded flooring , Tarmac not terribly comfortable at the best of times.

I'm waiting 😏 hi there

There's no shortage of Ukraine registered vehicles in Kerry. I doubt that the VRT fellas will be pestering them in the same way that they pester anyone else with a foreign reg.

I'd say that the "honeymoon" that started back in February is pretty much now over, and that even a lot of the full time "do gooders" are on the verge of boiling over.

Pull in your horns, I said nothing about the issue - I was relying to your snide put down of another poster. I have no opinion on whether guns are coming over in the cars - however it is a fact that cars are here.

The rest of your post is you arguing with yourself in your head, so good luck to you.

Sorry if this has been shared before but thought this recent article might be of interest here, mainly as an indicator indicator of people's opinion on the matter https://www.newstalk.com/news/surprise-surprise-the-government-have-run-out-of-available-accommodation-for-ukrainian-refugees-1364258

I have a feeling that tents will have to be long term come September ,Not only will students be returning but many who took Ukrainians into homes are giving them a months notice too .Some are here since March and people only took them for six months .Many posts now on FB looking to re home their guests .,

You are very naive if you think a massive amount of unregistered weapons being shipped to Ukraine, coupled with massive movements of people across border including people smuggling (how else do you think those fighting aged males are getting out of the country?), will not lead to increased weapons smuggling across the continent.

On the internet you can buy all kinds of gear now straight from Ukraine, even the likes of Javelins and NLAWs are for sale having been 'picked up' by arms dealers out there. For criminal gangs all over Europe its going to be like Christmas, with heavy weaponry available around Poland/Romania/Ukraine.

Waiving any kind of background checks into people who so much as claim to be Ukrainian is going to lead to all kinds of people who shouldn't be here, getting here. And you can be sure that at least some of them have criminal backgrounds. When we look back at this in 5 years time, I'll have told you so.

I think what started with as good intention, failed grandly due to lack of common sense and planning and taking precautions.

It is also unexplained desire to help others while your own are suffering: for instance, students have zero accommodation, my neighbor's son got brilliant LC results, lovely lad, but not looking forward to college offers as they won't be in a position to rent in Dublin, yet the government is in now rush to build/convert/rent out extra accommodation facilities. Same family, their other kid didn't get a place in secondary school locally, due to shortage of places. Yet the same school found places for several ukrainian children.

Loads of other thing are going on.

But don't they say, the rule of safety on the crashing airplane is to put an oxygen mask on yourself, then to help others.

Wouldn't it be more sense to sort our own problems before we land tens of thousands on top of everything? No, i am not against refugees, but i am very much against discriminating against your own in favor of others (who, in turn, in a lot of case take advantage of the system and the people).

I’ll be buying a couple of electric heaters before the summer ends that’s for sure.

mind you, might need a generator too.

country and it’s politicians are really the complete pits.

Scotland, with its population of 5.5 million and the same size as Ireland has now suspended its "overwhelmed super sponsor scheme for Ukrainian refugees", after accepting in only 8,000 ukrainian refugees.

Ireland has taken in over 50,000.

Daily Mail credibility is probably somewhere between 0 and 1 much of the time on a 10 scale, but interesting article and comments section: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11024079/Nicola-Sturgeons-betrayal-Ukraine-refugees-Backlash-plan-families-CRUISE-SHIP.html

I believe we've taken in the equivalent of 83 per 10,000 of our population, France has taken in 14 per head of population and UK the same, and yet Leo Varadkar says we may not of done or fair share, knowing as he does we've NO ROOM left, literally.