Guinness Surger

I've used it top non-nitro dark beers - just the very last bit though. They have to be low carbonated in my experience - drunkenly tried it with a dark lager and much spillage (and only a tiny bit too).

Obviously, pin trick also works with other nitro widget cans like O'Hara's Stout and Red, Kilkenny, Beamish, Murphy's etc.

No issues charging with me anyway.

Same here. Drank my last one last night. Back to 500s for me - not paying the nonsense price for Nitro cans. The 538s seemed to be a seasonal special.

Supervalu offer €30.

While in Tesco NI, you save around 15% compared to the south, but your pint glass will be well short with 440s.

Yes definitely agree, I noticed the normal cans go flat very fast and just don’t taste as nice.

I notice the 8 pack cans are not as nice anymore they seem to go flat after a while the 8 pack cans appear to be canned in Runcorn for the last few months and not Belfast - check the base of can before your buy.

Code on base after best before date GH caned in Runcorn

Code on base GE after best before date canned in marshals road east Belfast - seem to be the better can but only in 12 or 15 packs lately.

Also if you buy your cans up north or in England on some of the 440ml cans the code GJ these are canned in Runcorn also

could be oppistite for some people

just my preference

Sounds similar to the standard cans tesck were selling at Christmas with the different ring pull on top. Ring pull hinge was square instead of circular and the Guinness in the square hinge can was rotten. Worlds apart from the circular hinge can . Noticably rubbish. My assumption is the rubbish stuff was being brought in from the UK due to the can hinge it looked abnormal.

Yes that’s correct see my post above how to identify where your CDG has been packed.

Diageo also use an outsourced packing company for hop house 13 / Rockshore / Carlsberg etc in Hertfordshire in the UK they use this facility when Runcorn and Belfast are at capacity.

I'm definitely not one for the guinness bolloxology, but couldn't batches be different*, and a different canning line influence the final product?

*no idea with the sheer volume if it's possible to have a bad/ different brew.

Hadn't bought any cans in a few weeks was drinking spirits at home instead but taught id get 6 pack of the nitro cans for the weekend.

Had three today all **** muck. Every one of them was flat with this horrible sour mank taste. I was not having this issue when these cans were first released more often than not you were getting a great pint from the nitros and something just as good from the normal cans via the pin method. I've changed glass I've cleaned them I dunno how many different ways it's a joke at this stage and I'm done buying them for a good while at least in the hope they might hopefully improve. Never have I ever fucked half a pint down the sink until tonight! If only I could get to a decent pub more often ffs.

TBH I find them good, glass needs to be just washed in hot water, unit clean and fully charged.

Can anyone explain how a nitrosurge can without a widget costs a lot more than a nitrogen-charged can with a widget...?

Also production numbers would be significantly lower, meaning a higher unit cost. But as above, price gouging would be the biggest factor I suspect.

some of it is because there's 568ml in the surger cans, and 500ml in the normal widget cans

8 x 500ml widget cans / 6 x 568ml surger cans are both €15 in tesco currently - the 6 pack of surgers is the equivalent of 6.8 normal cans

sometimes the 8 packs go on sale, but i've never seen the surger cans on offer on their own