Is it too late for Europe and the World. There is fires everywhere.

It's all good, guys. The second coming of Jesus Christ beckons, he has risen. Tongue very much planted in cheek. I used to have a very gloomy outlook on these matters, we appeared to be marching off a cliff face like lemmings, but I have a good hunch that things are about to change for the better. Stay positive.

But what "we" propose to do in relation to agriculture appears counter productive......

Interesting.

I like the graph of solar irradiance v temp. That does show a drastic change since 1980s. Now do we have the same graph for an extended period so that we could see it that change since 1980 is something to worry about or again part of a cycle which has happened before?

The NASA article in general says nothing.

We may or may not be entering a solar minimum.

It might last decades or centuries.

It might cause cooling or it might not.

I'm still laughing at the comment that there is no evidence of correlation between solar minimums and the cooling that happens when each solar minimum occurs.

If we had a past history of increased human interference that coincided with periods of warming, that data would classed as conclusive. Not so when cooling is involved.

its probably too late when people don't understand something as basic as when to use 'is' and when to use 'are'........

you might call it that, i prefer to call it a basic command of the english language to be honest

Hardly matters if they're dictatorships does if there is nothing to dictate when the whole house goes up in flames. It's very much in there interest to make the changes is it not? Or are they living on another planet?

In other words it's hard to argue against the fact that 1 plus 1 equals 2 no matter what political ideology you follow.

Right so from reading this thread we are fairly fooked supposedly.

What will the effect on Ireland be in 50 years so My family can be prepared?

How much warmer will it get in the summer? Are we looking at 40 degrees in Ireland for a month continuous?

What plans can I make to grow my own veg that will support my family with fresh food?

Will the winters be wetter and colder? Can I store the water for drinking via filters and UV lights?

Can I generate my own electricity to keep us light going to make sure I have water for example?

Has anyone mapped this out as all I’m hearing is we are fooked, but get specific please.

I get what your saying, however when it comes to predicting solar activity cycles and solar activity it is very hard for any scientists as of yet to predict them accurately, thats why their is so many varying opinions on it, also many theories trying to explain it.

Im far from an expert on climate change but I guess when it comes to the science of it, there would be more confidence in the models created and maybe less disagreement in them within the scientific community. Although I agree their is differing opinions on it from some.

We need India China the usa EU countrys to make a deal to reduce energy use, switch to green energy, I see no sign of this happening, I'm glad I grew up in the 70s, we had no sign of forest fires, global warming, I'm not optimistic, I see some country's running out of water, the price of basic foods is rising, meanwhile as it gets worse, the worse hit will be low paid workers in third world country's People with money can afford to move to other country's. I just see bad news every day. Meanwhile Iran is getting ready to build nuclear weapons, the war in Ukraine continues. It feels like we are in a bad scifi movie but theres no heroes on the horizon, no avengers to rescue us

Even if everyone in Ireland buys an electric car or cycles a bike will it make any difference

We have the likes of Kylie jenner flying in a private jet

I read articles about people leaving the USA to buy a house in a country that's not in a drought with forest fires and a looming energy crisis

USA used to lead the world in living standards a place of hope and optimism now it seems to be on the age of chaos with idiots like Elon musk and republican extremists setting the tone

In 2020 private jets should only be used by Politicans the president etc not fashion influencers

I see no one offering a positive plan or hope for the world to fight climate change

Politicans are fighting climate change the pandemic inflation

Climate change is not on the agenda

People are surviving in Texas and many states by just staying inside turning on air con that's not a long term solution

It's not the corporate media that's the problem the neo facist Politicans in India or China don't give a f about climate change

I can't think of a reason to be optimistic

Ok well at least we are getting somewhere. Firstly there was no correlation whatsoever between temps and the grand solar minimums.

Now you accept that there is at least a theory that they result in lower temps.

All I'm trying to get at here is that there are cycles of the planet that have and will again result in cooling dispute what mankind does.

1000 years for example is a tiny blip in terms of the life of the planet yet we are getting excited about a period from 1980 to 2020.

I say live responsibly but this agenda within the media of putting fear into everyone when a good day is even rumoured to be on the horizon needs to stop.

Someone said having to go Indoors with Aircon during warm spell is not sustainable.

What about cool weather. Nobody says having to run heating for months of the year because you would die if left outside in the weather is not sustainable.

This post is such muck its hard to know where to start with it.

Firstly, man can engineer as any dams, bridges, dykes as he wants. What he can't engineer is the ecosystem we all depend on and its collapsing. People like you seem to be unable to get their head around the fact that we depend on every other living creature on this planet to sustain our existence. Its all interlinked, so if we wipe out microbes in the ocean by changing the water temperature either through warming or cooling this then has a knock on affect to everything else. We're seeing insect populations collapse which may make fcuk all difference to you now but eventually it will mean you're struggling for food.

In areas where the increased heat and weather patterns makes living there no longer possible, those people will migrate and then will aim for the developed countries which has massive knock on effects. We're already overfarming our land but now we'll have less land and feeding more people.

It doesn't matter at this stage as we've crossed the rubicon and theres no halting whats in progress now. The environmental damaged caused by Russias war and Ukraine would offset 10yrs of environmental measures. So enjoy the sunny day guilt free, its not the sunny day you need to worry about.