Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

The hotelier lady on the radio the other morning mentioned a family of 2 and 2 getting €525 a week.

So looks like €208 each for the usual JSA rate plus the extra allowance for a child dependant.

Then another €208 for 2 kids in children's allowance monthly.

That's on top of the free accommodation, free food, free travel, free medical and whatever else.

If the rate they were saying of €135 a night per person in a hotel is right then a family of 2 adults and 2 kids is costing the state €3780 a week just in accommodation.

Lets take a month that has 5 weeks in it for the laugh.

€540 a night for 4 people - €3870 a week x 5 weeks = €19,350

Benefits mentioned on radio for 2 and 2 family - €525 x 5 = €2625

Children's allowance - €280

So for a 5 week month for a 2 and 2 family in a hotel it's costing - €22,255

And that's without the travel and medical card and whatever other freebies.

That's 4 people and they are talking 80,000 by end of year.

It's astonishing that they can pull this kind of cash out from their holes and tell us for decades we can't do **** all for health, housing, cost of living and other issues.

Always some bull crap about European law even when the media reports other countries doing things to help citizens or going against the EU with no penalty. but for some reason we can't do anything under these "LAWS" , just another cop-out that people lap up ,nothing but spoofers.

She runs hotels full of Ukrainian's and said they were being offered €135 per night per person. The link for the interview on RTE is a page or two back.

The rates were mentioned by this lady. The 525 was in reference to her claim. Could have been 2 and 3 kids maybe and if 2 and 3 sure that's thousands more. Looking at the SW rates it doesn't look that far off.

These aren't my claims, these are a hoteliers claims who is working with the government to house refugees.

What has she got wrong? I'm not 100% clued up on rates TBH.

The government have offered her €135 euro per person per night for accommodation.

Both adults receive 208 euro per week. That's 416 - I have no idea what you get for a child dependent but it looks like for 2 or 3 kids it's the difference between the 525, a quick look says about 40 for full rate.

Then they get children's allowance monthly at a set rate.

I said 208 for two which is my mistake it's 280 or 420 for 3 kids.

If you know the actual rate which sounds like you do please share as it would be nice to see how this 525 is made up.

They should've stayed at home to fight over there instead.

Regardless of the exact amount there is absolutely no need for any refugee in a hotel and getting three meals a day to get full benefits .Any clear thinking person would know that is it glaringly unfair and wrong .Our own unemployed get the same and expected to feed and clothe themselves and their children .

The 50 e story comes into the same territory as leprechauns and fairies.

Yes is the straight answer, there are no SW deductions for free room and and food, reductions only start if an adult is working. Others on SWA obviously wouldn't have free Food and accommodation.

This said in a normal situation where an adult has dependent children, one of the parents in this scenario would be getting a higher weekly SWA payment, if this is happening in these situations, I can't confirm but it's more than likely, Childrens allowance is paid monthly.

State (IPAS) was paying €100+/night for a hotel room before Februrary

I caught a bit on the radio the other day, a pensioner rang and they were talking how they (an elderly couple) get just about the same money as a pair of Ukrainian refugees. The difference is though that the pensioners worked here all their lives, paid tax, from their pension they are to pay all their bills, feed themselves and everything else. Yet for Ukrainian people there are no bills to pay, food and accommodation are provided, they get a lot of handouts of whatever they want/need. How is fair or even sensible?

In my locality, there now at least 150 Ukrainians between a small hotel, guest houses, some adapted accommodation and a few living in Irish families. Yet so far I saw only one girl working in the local shop (to be hones, any time i saw her in the shop she is either on the phone or standing looking desperately bored). Another one living with an Irish family offers cakes and baking, her prices higher than local bakeries or private bakers. Her Irish hosts supported her prices by saying "She needs money more, she is from Ukraine" (as far as I know, that's all arranged by themselves, she has no business set up or anything, just does it from their kitchen, no certs or anything).

A lot of others staying nearby can be seen daily around local cafes or hanging around town. there also plenty of men among them, I would be doubtful to think they all are "exempt" from their military duties.

and to be honest, i do blame all those do-gooders as much as the government. People caress their egos most of the time. Because if you want to do good, there's plenty to do, you don't need to go get a bus load of Ukrainians and then run around them, like a headless chicken demanding everything to be handed to them. Yet, when you question anything or doubt, not only you are branded far right, as mentioned above, you automatically are cast as some kind of mean, heartless moron who has no empathy, does not want to help, etc, etc.

I've mentioned it before but will remind some who've continued with the Virtue signalling nonsense.

Im personally aware of Pensioners and vulnerable people living in my small community who don't have family near by. A private bus service still running 3 days a week to our nearest town, Tullamore for the now 36 Ukranian refugees who've arrived at my village under a cloud of mystery. The service is being Run, similar to the school bus set up and completely free for the Ukranian Refugees Only, no other passengers permitted to use it.

Then some some local do gooders felt this wasn't enough, sent out flyers asking locals could they offer occasional lifts, mainly at weekends to Ukrainian refugees when the free service doesn't run.

I duly responded, initially politely, asking why are those living locally for decades not permitted to use this free service, even offering to pay, I asked why this wonderful idea wasn't thought off for those vulnerable needing to get to Hospital appointments, got no response. One cheerleader Do Gooders house looked like the Ukranian Embassy at one stage there was so many Ukrainian flags outside it and yet not once in years did this individual offer assistance to an ill next door neighbour, I did and live 3 km away.

I told them to shove their request somewhere that the sun doesn't shine but will when possible assist those in my community more vulnerable and ignored and forgotten by these Hypocritical, vomit enducing cohort who gorge on virtue signalling nonsense and couldn't give a Toss about their own vulnerable neighbours.

Ukrainian flags incidentally have mysteriously vanished over the past months in my locality and beyond, people clearly sick of this BS. Mind own blood starting to Boil 😡

Correct its codswallop and don't forget what's been spent now is apparently from the Covid contingency fund 😉

We’ve seen the numbers and calculations here- 3 billion won’t last pissing time