"Green" policies are destroying this country

I was on the JDs myself...

Charles Haughey's 1977 giveaway screwed up Ireland for the entire 1980s and Bertie Ahern's open cheque book in the 2000s was little better, but trying to make fossil fuels more expensive expensive than burning their calorific value in banknotes is recent..

Well that's one way of putting the cart before the horse.

Its a charge for night rate not electricity supply. It doesn't require extra wiring. If you don't sign up for night rate - you will still be supplied with electricity regardless.

To you argument that "rural ones require more wiring and for longer distances". The facts are:

Providing urban areas with electricity actually requires providing multiple transmission lines from multiple generation sources over long distances.

Why is that?

Because the bulk of electricity generated in this country is generated in areas remote from urban areas. That electricity has to be distributed to urban areas via 10s of 1000s of miles of transmission lines. Who is paying for that?

Connections to electricity supply in rural areas even where transmission lines already exist require homeowners to pay for those connections themselves. That generally doesn't happen in urban areas where the cost of connections and hook ups are covered in the price of new apartment, houses etc by developers

So your idea that higher prices are being charged for night rate in rural areas actually makes no sense at all.

Denmark yes,

but Sweden and Norway are too far north, and too cold.

You are missing the elephant in the room and there can be no doubts, the IPCC was set up on 1988 from the outset to be a public relations effort that seeded consensus about climate change, You can find it in their documentation: "Principles governing IPCC Work’.

That storyline via the BBC (who were previously caught in their own 28-gate climate PR scandal - list of participants) that portrays the GCC as the only coalition of vested interests that was seeking to control the narrative does the truth no favours whatsoever. Who is trying to write that narrative? Whose public relations has come out on top? I'll give you a hint, it's the one that succeeded in co-opting the media, the education system, the politicians, the courts and the bankers into pursuing its own vision of a post-industrial utopia.

Don't forget the the Climate Action Network (CAN) founded a year later in 1989, take a closer look at local member NGOs in particular, An Taisce, Friends of the Earth Trócaire and Stop Climate Chaos Ireland (founded in 2007). Stop Climate Chaos coordinated the school children protests in the run up to the 2019 UN September conference. Who controls CAN? Greenpeas.

The IPCC closely coordinates with these organisations.

From: 2014: The IPCC: Bar the Media, Welcome the Activists

For anyone who thinks those school protests organised around Greta were grassroots organised? - think again.

The women above is German-American, Jennifer Morgan, she is the person who got Greta in all the right places (EU, UN, Davos). Before they succeeded with Greta, Greenpeace had been launching campaigns using children. Morgan is currently in the German Federal Foreign Office as a special representative for international climate policy. She has to get her German citizenship before she can get promoted to secretary of state. When you start looking into the world of climate PR campaigns, make sure you know whose campaign you are following.

Well thanks for that very long winded copy and paste

Do you have a point in relation to that or are we expected to wade through to find it?

No it's denial in the belief that if as a person I and every other resident of Ireland returned to living in a cave that the planet would somehow return to being grand the week later.

I take your point - I see it as more of the same in general. Another opportunity to gouge the people by whatever means possible to pay for policy balls ups.

You're analysis is misleading. It's not like we're getting nothing for spending money on climate change. We're getting a better more sustainable energy system that doesn't rely on foreign oil and gas. Domestic power generation that will save families money, We're getting warmer and more efficient houses that cost less to run and are healthier to live in. We're getting a new fleet of vehicles that don't poison us with air pollution and create much less noise pollution. We're getting more native woodlands, better cycling infrastructure.

Ultimately Ireland will be a net exporter of clean sustainable energy with the economic benefits that brings

And the costs of not transitioning.. endless energy insecurity. Becoming political pariahs as the consequence of climate change become even more serious and having to spend even more money to adapt and mitigate later on. It's not optional.

The shady practises of the utilities companies need to be better regulated. Right now smart tariffs are a complete joke.