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Bray Air Display 2022

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭EchoIndia




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭100gSoma


    Yay. At least I got to see them fly past the garden near Killiney. :))



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    It was the last proper airshow in Ireland. Galway had its moments but was nothing to compare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Saw them too haha.

    Nightmare it was. We drove to the dart station, every train was packed to the rafters from about 12, couldn't get on any of them.

    Only way out was to walk, took us 2 hours to walk the beach to Bray. Made it just for the start of the show.

    Place was rammed. But after too many helicopter displays the place started clearing out big time.

    Never in all the years have I seen so many people leave from about 3.30 - 4.30 before the final acts.

    I know weather played a part and it's free but it was very boring and the lineup was atrocious.

    Next year they'll have to try go all out.


    And getting home hahaha forget about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    ... no the Red Arrows didn't appear, and neither did the Battle of Britain memorial flypast, all in all a disappointing slow moving day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Looked to me from what i could see in the distance that there was 4 or 5 flying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭phonypony


    I saw 7 reds coast out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    So let's go through the organisers thought process then.


    "On a normal workday Traffic is gridlock, public transport is full, and there are no alternative routes in and out, and we're planning on bringing in 3 times the population of the town for a day"


    "what should we do?"


    "literally nothing and then act surprised when everything falls over"


    "Doesn't sound great"


    "OK let's put some cones on the southern cross"


    "Job's a good un"



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 668 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    Gotta say that was a shocking display in every regard. I live one stop away on the DART and after waiting for one for 20 mins and then have 2 full ones go by I decided not to bother. Sat on Shankill beach which was OK. From what I am reading it was a bit of a blessing. This country cant do the simple things right. People try there best to use public transport and good old IE make a complete mess of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    It's not Irish rail really. The capacity between Bray and greystones changes completely, and there's nowhere for the trains to be easily turned round. It's normal for trains to have to queue outside the station waiting for signal. Again, this is not news to the organisers so their plan to have people use the dart was never a goer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Seen five jets just fly by house in Rathfarnham at about 19:38.

    Anyone else see them- well you would’ve heard them anyway! Brilliant!

    Any idea what jets they were?

    I thought the whole thing was supposed to be over by 5?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    All a bit 'Irish' trying to explain to your 10 year old why the show should have been so much better, rather than your 10 year old telling you how geat the show was.

    After an hour he was more interested in throwing stones in the sea!

    Really took the biscuit when red arrow guy came on tannoy saying due to shower at Baldonnell reds could not take off/fly!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Dart service fell over, that's on irish rail. They along with TFI advertised additional services and capacity and neither appeared to be the case before the airshow anyway.

    What do you want the organisers to do about that ??

    There's never been this level of issue with the dart to bray when the airshow is on.

    For what the organisers could control that was car parking, from what I could see everything was moving well enough into the car parks, delays as usual as with every air show day with traffic out onto the m50 but nothing out of the ordinary there for the day thats in it, Gardai at every junction into Bray on point duty with traffic lights turned off to let traffic move quicker.

    Irish Rail will have alot to answer for but that'll be really about it.

    When you live here you get used to the traffic that comes with Airshow weekend and it wasn't anything out of the ordinary on the roads anyway, if anything it was more organised car parking wise this year.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭moonshy2022


    Bray was literally the terminus of the Dart service for decades. There’s is cross over points galore to facilitate the return service.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Yup, there's 2 sidings just past the station along with turn around points further on down before it becomes a 1 track line.

    There's never been this amount of hassle with the darts when the airshow is on.

    When I was leaving the seafront both platforms were being used for services heading into Dublin with more darts lined up waiting behind & some waiting to enter Bray coming the other way, held on the dargle bridge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Well I'm glad I didn't come. Bad set of circumstances combined with a s*itshow seem to have been the word.


    In the end I came to Dublin for the day on the Saturday to meet friends - the thinking being that socialising was better for me than sitting on a beach on my own all afternoon. Very glad I did what I did and very glad I refused to pay the amount hotels were asking for a Saturday overnight.


    Think I'll be going to a UK airshow next year, its easier to do that than Portstewart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    So which is it, there were loads of darts (in which case how did Irish rail fail) or there were massive issues with the DART (in which case how were they lined up in teams)?



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,304 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Before the display there seemed to be a massive lack of services into Bray as shown by pictures of queues on platforms along the route to Bray and images of darts packed to the rafters. I saw them myself entering Bray prior to 2pm and commented to those who I was with that there seemed to be a huge gap in services as we were near the level crossing. In previous years they'd have been coming in every few minutes.

    After the air show I saw several waiting to enter the station as both platforms were occupied with northbound services.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭Jaysci20


    They could have the Blue Angels dogfighting the Red Arrows next year, I still won't ever touch that airshow in Bray again. Id understand if today was a once off but it's a total shambles every year.

    I hope they bring back the airshow to Galway, the organisers there always managed to run everything well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Yep I'm done with the bray air show. Poor displays. Massive let down not to see the red arrows. To top it all off there was no car park attendants in the paid car park when leaving. It took nearly an hr just to get out of the car park. Absolutely blessed it didnt rain because I say many a car would have got stuck in the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Anyone an idea on numbers??. There must have been way more than they usually get.

    I said I was at the dart earlier. Couldn't get on mind you but there was 100% an increased service, they were coming in about 2 - 3 minutes apart. Next few in 5 mins one after the other and so on. Wasn't a Sunday service at all.

    The people jumping off obviously had a knock on effect causing huge delays then.

    Coming home was a different story though.

    Last few years at it I never remember having to queue for hours trying to get into the station, you always just walked straight in, train would depart, next lot in the next train and that departs and there was always a nice flow.

    They definitely fucked that part up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    Watching RTE there, it was a resounding success.

    😂😂😂😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    I posted earlier on this thread - never again, I normally take these things with a pinch of salt but that was not worth it in anyway. Dragged the whole family on train to bray and paid for family ticket which was never checked once - I must have been the only one who bought a ticket for the day. Absolute carnage. Still on the maynooth train back home..


    it’s taken us longer to get to bray and back than it did to travel to Italy last month



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Alas, none of them appeared at the Airshow itself :-(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Let's call a spade a spade

    What a pile of sh1te



  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭WealthyB


    Finally home. We tried leaving at 4 anticipating a massive queue, but we were already too late. Barriers down at the Level Crossing for an eternity, zero communication from anyone. Dublin knackers, pushing their way around, fcuking and blinding out of them. Fella rolling a joint beside my son (the scumbag had his own poor neglected kid in a pram but having a joint can't wait I guess). We ended up finding a little oasis called Two Chaps who had a sandwich van off the road that runs along the back of the train station. Lovely sambos and fantastic staff. A traveller, so annoyed that his sandwich wasn't toasted demanded a refund. After getting said refund he kicked and overturned any fixture he could on the way out. I noted he had a deep knife scar across his face. Pity whoever did it didn't get his neck. Feral scum. Trains were only leaving every 20mins or so and were half empty. No sign of any movement at all. The throng of people was too much for one of my lads who suffers anxiety and he was starting to really struggle. We took the overpass bridge (another shambles) and went to the queues for the busses instead and after about 2 hours in a queue we got on a 155 to get us the fcuk out of there.


    Between the dog rough crowd with their tits and bellies out, the permenent smell of weed wherever you went, and the complete lack of organisation, this is one shitshow I'll be giving a miss next year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Yeah that was absolutely crap. Who wants to look at a Garda helicopter do 3 or 4 fly pasts. Slow moving planes and an awful crowd full of scumbags smoking weed and drinking. An awful day will never go again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Was way more people this year than previous years. Drove to Loughinstown parked car. Took bike off roofrack and cycled to bray. Total time from terenure to bray. 1 hour



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Oddly I didn't smell any cannabis myself. '

    Seeing a queue for Spar was pretty farcical.

    I walked off Bray Head at around 5.30pm. Was on a DART by 6.10.


    EDIT: had heard a figure of 80,000 said by someone near me around 4pm. Must have been quoted on the news



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jimbis


    I usually cycle out and it's always a breeze weaving your way through the traffic. Once it's over its the quickest way out too.


    But like many we had small kids with us this year so we headed for shankill beach/park. Taking the back roads, no traffic at all and managed to create a parking space close to the seafront.


    Decent crowds there and we got to see the majority of the action. Normally I'd say there is nothing compared to sitting under the action but I think we got pretty much the same as bray did.

    Kids played away and stopped now and then to watch the planes so all happy. 2 mins walk to the car and traffic free drive home.


    For anyone with small kids id keep shankill beach in mind for next year



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    Today was disappointing. The rain at Baldonnel didn't help things, but surely the organisers will have been well aware of the forecast, and things could have been rejigged.

    Ou usual parking area was off limits, and is just minutes from the seafront. We ended up parking much further down (pre-booked), and ended up walking for around an hour both ways because the shuttle service only had a few buses for the amount of people queuing. We'd have been quicker walking than queuing.

    I can see the Air Corps often, but it was still nice to see them today, along with others that managed to perform.

    It is disappointing that what we're considered the main acts didn't even get off the ground.

    The airshow was only on for the one day, rather than two, so no doubt there were more today than usual.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Personally I thought the weather was always going to be an issue. I was 50/50 about going on Saturday with the question mark over the Reds.

    I got to Bray very early (11am) to dodge the rail traffic. I saw the clouds on Bray Head and immediately adjusted my expectations.

    At 12-1230 it was very windy and raining so I resigned myself to no BBMF and at best a flat display from the Reds.


    My hopes got up from 1.30-3pm as the weather brightened up and I felt the sun burning the back of my neck. But around 4pm I could see the rain to the North-West and a hint of pessimism crept into my mind. But the news that the Reds were cancelled was still a gut kick.


    Im going to Fairford for the Air tattoo next year. Already told the wife!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    It was a terribly boring display, I actually fell asleep when rescue 116 was going by again. Sure we see that everyday in Dublin doing its patrols. The two displays we all wanted to see didn’t perform, which was a huge let down and felt that they could have changed the running order up a bit with the forecast.

    The DART was an absolute sham. It was completely full already at Harmonstown which it never is. Then the scum / I know better brigade made a terrible situation worse by opening the doors and hopping out on a live and busy railway. Thankfully we got in ahead of that. My train had 6 carriages, while passing many sets at Fairview.

    Knowing the **** show that going home was going to be, had two pints in the harbour bar which was great as usual and seemed to be the only place set up for the crowds. Managed a seat on the way home.

    I love planes, but today really put me off going again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭DonnieCorko


    I was on the dart just behind the one stuck at bray. We were between Shankill and Bray. The train ahead of us was literally 3 mins ahead of us (I know this as we just missed it when getting on our dart, we saw it leave).

    I wonder how much of it was exaggerated in terms of being overheated etc. People on our DART were saying similar stuff like its too hot, open the doors etc (in a joking way), but people did so a few mins later. in the carriage ahead of us. It was not packed at all.

    Lets just say the first people getting off (and taking a piss on the side of the tracks immediately) werent the cream of the crop.

    Cant speak for the train ahead who were first to disembark on the tracks, but it caused a huge knock on effect. We were stopped for 10 mins, the train ahead couldnt have been more than 15 mins stopped.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I was on the one that started it. It was really only 10 minutes. All other trains were affected by the passengers on the train I was using hopping off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,430 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The whole experience is just kip.

    **** it ever again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    What an absolute sh1tshow. Seems like no crowd control whatsoever.

    Left Booterstown at about 11.30. Train was absolutely packed. Heat was incredible and no air conditioning.

    Arrived at air show and realised I made a huge mistake. Crowds were unbelievable - way too much to enjoy yourself. Went to get a pizza and ended up queuing up for over an hour. Massive queues for all food stalls.

    Very trashy crowd at the show itself. Drinking beers and pushing prams with their bellies hanging out. Watched a few sh1t planes fly by then queued up for another few hours to get home.

    Was such a relief to finally get away from that and get to my home.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    Absolute shambles. We drove and had pre booked our parking but it was a nightmare getting into the car park. Queued for 25 mins to get into Spar to get some cold drinks.

    Communication terrible. Mr Sam knew some of the lads in the Irish air Corp and they told us that the red arrows wouldn't be flying. No one could hear the announcements being made.

    Having previously been to air shows at Galway, Baldonnel, Biggin Hill and Farmborough it really showed what a sh1tshow this one was. Never again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭EI321


    Have to say I don't think I'd bother going to this again, the lack of comunication from organisers was the most annoying thing for me, they put nothing up on the air shows twitter or website all day about cancellations, I could have at least gone home early if I knew the few planes I went to see were unlikely to be able to display instead of waiting around naively and wasting the whole day standing in queues etc. I understand that some things are unavoidable at the moment like difficulty staffing hospitality and the fact that a free event will sometimes attract a rough element that has little or no interest in planes but a simple tweet explaining the situation wouldn't have cost anything. We were at the North end of the beach and couldn't hear any announcements, dunno why they couldn't but an extra loudspeaker up there.



  • Posts: 0 Ava Mealy Youth


    Someone on the festival organising committee must have sway in RTE because the whole thing was a resounding shitshow.

    IR have made a right mess of servicing this event. Absolutely LETHAL conditions on the service down today. 2 hr queue to get onto a train afterwards.

    Never again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,394 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I remember going to Bray Airshow the year the Airbus 340 flew over and the special livery Air Lingus plane as well as I think a 747 and an Airbus A380 as well as a Spitfire and other planes some jet too and I too can say that the Dart was packed and roasting so nothing has changed then. I have not gone since.

    The speakers did work do

    Well I guess the organisers just put about at least half of the attendees to this weekends show off from ever going again.


    Maybe when there is not many crowds at next years show if there is one they might learn something.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    There is very little to genuinely put blame on IR. It was always going to be busy, so is always going to take time to move people out afterwards. I made the choice to hang around in Bray with my son afterwards for that very reason.

    And the issue with people disembarking, is becuase those on the first train that did it, just wouldn't wait for a few minutes for a section ahead to clear. It messed everything up for everyone else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭EI321


    I was wondering while I was on a sweltering hot train today, is there some technical reason why the trains air con seems to switch off for inordinate periods despite it being so overheated? Surely a sensor would keep it on and within a certain temp, or did the driver just not switch it on. It felt like there was a low level of oxygen after being on it for over an hour. I know the IR commuter trains are about 20 years old but surely the air con should be on permanently since the windows don't open.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭AngeloArgue


    It was a bit of pity with the weather. Really wanted to see the Battle of Britain memorial flight and the viggen (which I seen before). I was really impressed with the silver swallows, for a new team they did great. I feel they really need to condense the show if they are to continue, cut out the one guy in a propeller plane and the state helicopter stuff.

    As for the crowd. I was minded of that H.G. Wells novel "The Time Machine". The naive Eloi peacefully enjoying themselves, and the ugly violent rough morlocks out to fill their debased and gluttoness desires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Best thing about the show

    Royal Jordanian Falcons

    Bad things

    No running order

    A lot of confusion over the start time, then it still didn't start on time

    Barely could see anything apart from helicopters

    Couldn't hear the PA or engines thanks to the free disco/s from the amusements

    Little or no toilets and bins

    Tell people to tag us in your pictures etc then no data connection (few WiFi towers for the day needed)

    Absolute farce with public transport, once the red arrows couldn't show that was the start..525 or so eventually walked to the station, went off, came back 625 and still as bad, got food and eventually got onto a dart after 7

    One way systems with barriers and signs needed, not free for all with people and buggies and bikes

    One Irish rail worker said he can't see it next year and I hope he's right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭jeffk


    The train stopping and people walking on the lines

    A girl I know and her sister and kids was on this train

    Overcrowded, warm day no AC etc, pushing started

    A Connor McGregor wanna be starts mouthing off, then things settled down until they didn't. Shout's to one of his mates about getting his hammer and then forces open the door and then made his way to the driver to abuse him and try to kick his door in

    She stayed in her carriage until she had to get off and walk like you see

    Got talking to Irish rail worker, about 20 to 30 of them from Cabra and it happen around the golf course



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 tzn


    I absolutely agree with everyone commented here. Please allow me to write (rant from my armchair) here how I have seen it, some of my views are similar with others, some may disagree.

    Thank god we took the bus instead to Bray, but waiting 2 hours for a bus to get home that was just insane (read that before here the Dart was not too much better either), never experienced this anywhere else even at bigger festivals and shows. Buses should have been coming and leaving continuously. Seriously on the way back to Dublin after leaving Bray I have seen a Dublin Bus depot with full of buses, obviously not going anywhere. Not to mention all those scumbags cutting the queues... fck off you privileged m0ron... And the cutie who is on the phone wandering down the queue like she has no idea (classic cutting the line trick) and suddenly she is on the bus and you are still waiting there for an other hour. And all the people cutting in and waving to their family to follow... seriously people... And Garda is there at the buses handling the queue and asking people if they go to Greystones etc. what is going on guys, the queue were full of people smoking weed... Oh well, the bus was at least free!

    I do photography so I was often scanning around with my camera and I could see the signs of boredom everywhere. Most people were just chatting, playing, swimming, kids are running all over the place like they don't really care about anything. Huge amount of strollers blocking the way out at the rail tracks and moms chitchatting about siht and not moving. I would say the actual amount of people who were interested about the planes were like 20-30% of those attended, maybe less, the 70-80% went to a funfair.

    Also not too much information about anything coming as we were at the left side, it was extremely hard to hear the loud speakers, sometimes could not even hear anything. Of course this was my problem as why I was there on the side and not in the middle, right?

    For me most of the planes were too far. If the CASA (btw it was not even on the lineup, where they summoned that from?) could come closer why the others went out that much? Even some of the planes I believe which have better maneuvering capabilities went out far away. I have a 600mm+ telephoto lens but even with that sometimes it was hard to get a photo :) And where was the A320? Was that also scheduled for the end? Not that I would not see those around Dublin Airport but that is boring. I wanted to take some good photos when it is next to Bray Head :)

    And finally the cancellation. We cannot tell what really was in the mind of the organizers to not to reschedule the main attraction before the weather turns bad. Unfortunately this is what happened and we cannot really do too much about it, they may be messed up, did not manage the project well, who knows. Everyone wanted to see the reds etc but hey, weather is weather, mistake is mistake and we are the ones who are complaining here about everything from our armchairs :)

    Next time I would rather pay just have an organized public transport and without all those idiots around, but as others have already mentioned it would be really hard to justify going next time. Maybe we will all be there next time and they surprise us, who knows!

    And finally videos are popping up on Tiktok too about the "events" if anyone is interested:

    tiktok.com/@xposties/video/7123965980258209029

    tiktok.com/@hayleydoyle825/video/7123959868662320389

    tiktok.com/@jtaobr/video/7123983192314350854



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I did not go to the Airshow. Well Done to Dublin Bus though - what I would have used. No Doubt took some of the DART passengers back home too. I could also have got Go Ahead buses all the way, but there were cancelled 75's yesterday that did not inspire confidence.



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