What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

I'm not attempting to prohibit anything, I'm just passing judgments :)

Oh I know that much, that’s why I acknowledged that you gave a stab at least at offering your own ideas of what integrating into Irish society means by your own standards. Everyone can do that though, and they’re all going to have different standards by which they judge whether or not immigrants have successfully been integrated into Irish society.

It’s easy to pick examples of immigrants who have no interest in having anything to do with Irish people, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t integrated into Irish society, there are plenty of Irish people who don’t want to have anything to do with other Irish people too. It’s just not a good measurement of either the success or failure of integration, which is an ongoing process IMO, not something which can be measured in terms of success or failure.

You're not sure but I'm sure.

The good ole' days, when western counties didn't take the whole weight of the worlds dysfunctional countries on their shoulders.

To be perfectly blunt, I don't care what goes on in other countries.

I really mean that. I'm sick and tired of the media platforming the ills of foreign countries, as if it's all 'our' fault. Even if they said it's not our fault.

It's all emotional blackmail, and I'm sick of it.

I don't care. And I'm not going to be told I should care.

The news always reports horrible things going on in the world. This is psychological blackmail, the idea that if everyone isn't well off or content, or generally OK, you shouldn't be either.

Well I am, so eff off.

Btw, being a Kate Bush nut when I was an angst teenager (stole my sisters Kate Bush tapes much to my brothers surprise because they were listening to Pink Floyd), I welcome her return, if only momentarily.

Let's get back to who we are instead of who other people are.

The 2016 Census told us that 643,131 people had a disability in Ireland . That is approximately 13.5 % of the population. Yet look at Minister O’Gormans twitter, he’s also the minister for Disability, O’Gorman… you have to go back months for a cursory mention or reference to anything substantial on that side of his portfolio… April 28th and it’s pretty scant interest…and back to March and nothing…

‘Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration, and Youth.’

plenty of espousing multiculturalism and meeting this person, that person. He might as well be the minister for multiculturalism, it’s a narrative that he is seriously active, pushing and perusing. ….. but people here whom he is tasked and paid to help, no interest…

imagine a portfolio, and on your Twitter account there is basically fûck all interest shown. You’d think he’d realise that the people here who elect him and pay his wages might appreciate and value him doing his job… for them / us.

The clown Mark Malone really hates anyone speaking up about migration as it's his grift here he goes after David Quinn in the Times. Malone is a nasty piece of work who shuts down all debate on the migration crisis.

I mean I only go by what I read from people you are on the same side as. Not necessarily lads who post here but there was definitely some anti EE sentiment such as "they are ok, they are going back home!!". Yes I can find that post before people ask. Generally on twitter and the funny telegrams I have seen comments such as "If I went to Poland I wouldn't get...!!!", "There are too many Eastern Europeans taking up housing and facilities for the Irish!!!", "I can't get a GP appointment (oookay) or my kid in school (you are incel and have no kids) because of the Eastern Europeans!!!", "Look at the amount of Eastern Europeans in Irish prisons!!!!". So it's quite funny that an Eastern european comes along standing beside them and then sets the standards for other immigrants in Ireland. That was my point. Personally I love EEs. I've had several EE girlfriends and one of my best mates is Polish, a great addition to the country and long may it continue.

I have never seen this level of sheer concern among people about the migration situation before.

The problems in recent months appear to have really swung opinion just based on my own casual conversations with people who would never raise it before. People seem genuinely worried.

The government has to act soon I reckon. What that is I don't know.

An outright cap?

I agree totally. I noticed you have a Polish name in your username also. 1 in 4 of them was on the dole as of 10 years ago, according to official stats. Not sure about since then. A stat I saw when an anti EE "patriot" made it. There does seem to be a split between people on the right in Ireland who consider EEs to be taking up housing and facilities and they also point to the dole stats and prison stats etc and want them out. There are others who seem not to mind them. I have seen EE migrants pointing the finger at other migrants as a way to ingratiate themselves with those types on the right and hope that they stay under the radar perhaps. The fact is many of the same (bad) arguments about Ireland not having housing/facilites, the dole stats, crime stats etc can all be used on EEs also, who are here in large numbers (and long may that continue btw!).