Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

I'm halfway through it. The impression I am getting is that Meghan was ambitious. She wanted to be a major star. That was the dream. Critical acclaim, peer recognition (Oscars) and a lifestyle which the consequent millions of dollars banked would enable her to channel her inner diva i.e. at a social level where you are the one giving out NDA's to be signed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being ambitious and you do what you have to do to try and make a go of it or find success at it. However whatever talent she did have was never cultivated, there was no intellectual curiosity or passion to become as good an actor as she could possibly be. Stardom isn't automatically conferred and Meghan was never going to advance the art form that is acting in any meaningful capacity. You have heavyweights like Streep who reach the pinnacle but they too started from the bottom. They would go through the same mind numbing and soul crushing audition-rejection-audition-bit part-audition cycle. However they would have been honing their craft in parallel, they would be improving and becoming experts at acting. Their odds of getting cast would improve in the constant effort to improve.

For the lucky ones, when their big break came through they had the talent to gain notice and traction to forge out a career...while still improving even as their career progressed. I get the impression that this star search cycle was beneath Meghan who, being spoiled and entitled, expected to go from Z to A as a matter of course. When your dad gave you everything you wanted then rejection was hard to take. In place of efforts to improve she would seek to maximise her profile via relentless and ruthless self-promotion. You were only a friend if you could help her advance, cultivating relationships and friendships organically didn’t happen unless you had value. Latching onto activism and seeing relationships as being transactional. She felt this was the way to go but the drawback is that you are dumping people, people who may understandably be aggrieved and in voicing their grievances down the line then it doesn’t make them liars or haters or jealous. It is the risk she took by seeking fame at any cost.

The goal would have been to become financially secure, to land a few roles or a recurring role which would enable that. Again nothing wrong with that but for all the effort she landed a recurring role as sixth on the call sheet and sixth on the payroll as well. In fairness among the thousands who strive for success Meghan was relatively successful however her success was analogous to being akin to mid-table mediocrity in Sports i.e. you make up the numbers but aren't talented enough to be the champion. She had a million followers on her blog, she was a minor celebrity. The persistent financial worries (i.e. Suits wouldn't be on air forever) drove a desire to social climb and land someone wealthy to offset that worry. The self-promotion (not acting) skills she had instead mastered helped tremendously in networking her way to meeting such a person so that she could hopefully love bomb them sufficiently to dupe them into a marriage which would guarantee financial security (e.g. "Cashley" Cole or Rory McIlroy). She chanced upon securing a date with Prince Harry and the rest was textbook love bombing. She (falsely) presented herself as the idea he had in his head about his mother and he was smitten. Now someone who isn't a rabid narcissist obsessed with their image and control of her "brand" would have been delighted to reach such a status level. To my mind the actual suitability of Harry as a partner was completely irrelevant. He was a mark. He was "rich", connected, Royal. It didn't matter that he was an arrogant, entitled, mentally ill man. If it didn't work out then the transactional aspect would at least boost her profile into the stratosphere. No more mid-table mediocrity (e.g. promoting a mid-range fashion retailer in Canada). Vanity Fair! Dior! VVIP!

Meghan got to unleash her inner diva but the problem was one Bower points out about the whole point of being Royal. It is the anti-thesis of self-promotion and Meghan had no interest in reading the throne room. They have tremendous privilege and entitlement but a consequence of that is their duty to promote others be they individuals they confer titles to for services to craft or charities or organisations etc. Their role is to unite, promote, enhance, celebrate and endorse the best of Britain and the commonwealth. For someone like Meghan this knowing self-sacrifice made her just about the worst type of person to take on such a role. Her husband was someone who was fed up with such a lifestyle. Meghans desire was that the controls, protocols and machine of the institution should cater to her desire for her self-promotion. Why couldn't she walk side by side with the Queen? Why couldn't she accept "gifts" from fashion houses? Why shouldn't she be allowed to be Her Royal Highness anywhere she damn well pleased? Why couldn't she speak out about issues important to her even if they were sensitive and controversial? etc. My thinking is that there was a standoff in terms of the staff, and their prerogative to assist the Sussexes to support to Queen, were at pains to accommodate her sense of entitlement and gratify her ego in so far as possible coupled with the sheer frustration of adopting a stiff upper lip in refraining from telling a C-list narcissist that the only reason she was even being tolerated at all (or known) was because of who she married and that upending established protocols just wasn't going to happen. To my mind that's why people, seeing the complete lack of compromise, started quitting. They could see where it was heading. Ahead of the second half of the book then what exactly was Meghan going to do when confronted with such blocks? Bully them into compliance? Cry racism and say anyone not supporting her was racist? Oh...wait. Seems like that's exactly what she would do.

Post made on discussion forum thread made about the topic of the thread shocker. He should be more worried about Tom Bower. I mean that guy literally wrote a book about them! A best selling book which is weird since you're implying anyone having the remotest interest in this car crash or the cheek to discuss them is a security threat.

You’re not still at this nonsense defending those two no matter what?!

Yeah because Harry is worried sick about an Irish internet forum with limited traffic based primarily in their intermittent embarrassing PR manifesting. Didn't you hear? The Queen is inviting them to Balmoral as an olive branch! The tabloids are one thing but incessant PR guff is the other side of that coin. I suppose the anonymous praise is acceptable though. Clearly I'm not a fan. Point out where I have been vitriolic? You're mixing up piss taking and confusing it with vitriol.

Effort? These two are frauds in need of mocking and ridicule. A pair of hypocrites, actual perfect icons of fakery. Simplistic examples of that social phenomenon. You do get sick of the optics and the PR manifesting with it all calculated to make money. I'd be more respectful if they just made it obvious that they want money, as much of it as possible.

For example Harry speaking at the UN on Mandela Day and dropping in the collaborations he is working with as partners of Archewell. It is naked self-promotion and if you think pointing out how this is useless people masking their uselessness via associating themselves with real deals (Harry/Mandela or Meghan/Steinem) is vitriol then that's your prerogative. Personally I find Harry continually exploiting his mother is poor taste. Contrast that to William only speaking about her when necessary.

Again, it's masking his own uselessness via her actual achievements. I suppose the basic truth of it all triggers accusations of hate i.e. if you're critical then you're a hater. How lazy but done to shut people down as well as your jibe about obsession. I don't think anything I've written about them remotely approaches vitriol. In the book these two clowns had staff scouring social media to remove negative content about them. Why? To promote themselves, to protect their brand and nothing more. Clearly my sentiments must not be alone. Being happy to point this all out and it's vitriol? Sure Jan.

In summary, she is a base, dysfunctional narcissist who cares nothing about humanitarian issues beyond how those talking points are useful to her own ambitions. He is a jealous angry simpleton merchandising his dead mother because he has no accomplishments of his own. The Bower book drums it all up again hence my interest but the above sums them up in my opinion.

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I never knew words required physical security protection. I appreciate Harry is paranoid about his security but some fella from Cork thinking he's an eejit is now a security risk? Jesus wept. What you perhaps mean is hopefully they can successfully reach the point where they can, in some deluded Orwellian fantasy, automatically scrub the whole internet of all content which is critical of them/not very nice to them.

If you want to see actual vitriol and this scrubbing in practice I suggest you try places like below. If you fancy or enjoy trolling go and say something like "Kate is actually nice" in the comments. You will get banned very, very quickly and your comment likely deleted. That Orwellian dream a step closer to becoming reality!!

Sample comment.

If (Kate) cried at all, it was because it dawned on her Harry was actually getting married and her long unrequited crush would be off limits to her. 

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One other point that I forgot to mention above was the unbelievable detail that the black and white photo of pregnant Meghan and Harry under the tree was a fake! The oak tree was photoshopped into it afterwards. It was taken remotely with them in a field, him on an ipad in London. The acclaimed photographer could have shot an equally gorgeous picture in the grounds of their mansion one would think or anywhere in their immediate environment during lockdown. By all accounts they live in a gorgeous area.. Makes you wonder what other photographs he photoshopped.....the photo of Lillibet ahem.....just saying....

And we are back to the basic problem with H&M, nothing is as it seems, nothing is real or authemtic. Its all fakery and pretence.

What makes me laugh is how she keeps making statements that are so easily proven to be lies. She must really believe we are all stupid.

That was in the book, whatever they say becomes factual in their heads.

We all at times which we were only children when our siblings annoy us but that doesn’t mean that you’d be an only child. What utter rubbish.

There's a word for people who believe that. It begins with N...

Interesting to see the anti-Will & Kate narrative that emerged yesterday.

Lots of twitter outrage regarding the briefing allegedly made by their camp to supply info to the new book. Some of the hashtag trends are a bit salacious 😉 the #PrinceOfPegging and the evergreen #WaityKaty are doing the rounds