Sophie: A Murder in West Cork - Netflix.

She may have been telling the truth initially when she told the Gardai she saw a man on Airhill road, a man outside her shop, and a man on Kealfadda.bridge.

She never said she saw Ian Bailey in those places.

These visions became Bailey at the suggestion of the Gardai.

I doubt she knew him beforehand , she had only been in Schull about a year. They lived about 4 or 5 miles apart.

Small town alright about 600 people in1996

The Airhill Road sighting is always going to be relevant because it was established a few weeks after Marie made the statement, that Ian Bailey was on that road early on the Sunday morning in question. He stayed over-night on a bender at a house on that road and separate witnesses say that he left the house early Sunday morning but returned a while later. This information only became apparent to Gardaí a couple of weeks after Marie made her first statement so they couldn`t have been coaching her at that point.

In this initial statement she said that the man on the Airhill Road was the same man that was outside her shop the previous day when Sofie came in. It has also been established that Bailey was in the village around the time Sofie came into the shop. Marie didn`t identify Bailey in the first statement. She didn`t know him at that point. Now she says it wasn`t him. But the problem for Marie, and indeed Bailey, is that the sighting on the Airhill Road almost certainly was him.

I'd suggest, this is just one of many possibilities.

She could have walked with somebody down to the gate, or to meet somebody by the gate, or she ran for her life and the killer caught up with her by the gate?

Either she was murdered by the gates, or her body was carried there and murdered somewhere else?

Were the cuts and bruises really from a fight or were they administered later on? It could have been, with care as no DNA was found. It's hard to imagine that a fight would leave not DNA, nothing at all...?

We do not know, but can only guess that she may already have been unconscious when the killer used the cavity block on her?

If she was carried, there must have been a reason why she was placed on the road, rather than behind the briars and more out of sight. Most likely as a reason was that the body was to be found quickly, - if hidden behind the briars, it could have taken another 12 to 24 hours to be discovered?

The killer must either have known something about leaving traces, prints, DNA, etc... or he was extremely lucky that the police didn't find anything? The first option would suggest the killing was planned, the murder site carefully cleaned, the interior of the house staged and the killer wanted the victim to be found quickly the next morning.

Same as the blood stain at the door? Did the killer come back to the house for whatever reason? or was Sophie attacked / injured by the door?

To all of these things we don't know the answers to.

And if it was a planned killing the motive would be way more important to think about. Regarding motive and planned killing, I'd suggest any financial-divorce or drug related motive would have outweighed anything sexual? I would find it hard to believe that Bailey would have planned such a killing and gotten away with it, but not having any known motive at all for doing so.

An unplanned killing would probably go down more into the sexual and rage motive? And more into the killer counting on the incompetence of the police authorities not getting any DNA?

Again all speculations.

Yes, I agree with all that, but the question is what would you do if say, your teenage son came home in that state and admitted what he had done.

A young man maybe about to go to university or take over the family farm, someone with his whole future ahead of him.

You made the decision that protecting his future was more important than the life he just took.

What steps would you take if it was too late to dispose of the body and clean up the site?

Your theory is worth a consideration, however, I don't think that that's what happened.

Mr. Tomi Ungerer would indeed strike me as an odd character living out his fantasies in a remote part of the world. However I don't see any motive for him. He was probably perfectly innocent in this.

If he did kill Sophie, I'd suggest it was either drug trafficking related, or sheer lust of killing and getting away with it as a one time affair. He would also be familiar with the countryside, and possibly knowledgeable on who was living there all year round, and who only visiting for holidays. He would also have been somebody Sophie would have opened the door to at any time of the night, I'd suggest.

I wouldn't consider any sex games gone wrong or something like that. The pathologist's report noted there were no signs of any sexual activity. Also he would also not have brought the body back to the house, but disposed of Sophie by throwing her over the cliffs somewhere.

And her husband Daniel hiring Tomi Ungerer to kill his wife, I don't think that that's what happened. Mr. Ungerer was certainly another oddball in the area, but he wasn't a hitman to be hired and paid.

Was the gate was in the opened position when the attack occured.

Blood stains on the gate shows this here.

She may have bee trying to haul herself up or a gloved attacker left thos stains there

Who opened the gate?

Or was it always left open.

Or did the gards open it wider to let Alfie's wife drive to dispose of some waste material.

Alfie's wife discovered the body at 10.30am I wonder what position the gate was in at that time,

Didn't she hit brakes hard when she seen the body, so was probably not slowing down as the gate was probably open

Did Sophie open it to collect her post from post Box in Photo below, maybe this is why she put boots to outside

Was this shared post box or did it belong Shophie solely

The blood stain on the Back door (below) may have been a previous bleed from Sophie.

Although I believe though from previous threads on here that Sophie mostly used the front door

Is it true that the gate that was need to remain closed was the gate to the field to the right of the blood stained in the picture

Just speculation .

There were some people on a previous thread on Boards.ie who had previously visited Alfie's House.

Could any of them reply to whether or not the gate was already opened when they called up to Alfie's ?

As far as I know the gate was open at the night of the murder. Shirley drove at least past it, then she stopped, and walked back to the body. Shirley's car was often seen after the gates, in various pictures.

“I will place you at Kilfeada bridge'”

Bad enough saying that to Bailey in the Garda station, but to boast about having said It, in the documentary says all you need to know about him.

What evidence have you that Dwyer was corrupt?

Asked and answered.

What are the odds... she never noticed Bailey around the small town before in the previous months she had been there and then sees him three times in the same weekend? At different locations? Including allegedly after he has just committed a murder and she is the only one to spot him except for her mystery driver? Think of the odds of that.

Amazing how she went from being completely unobservant not to notice Bailey on the town of the main street on which she worked... and being completely unable to accurately describe Bailey even with reference to his to height of her husband, or Bailey's build... yet her eagle eyes spotted him at night on the side of the road with his hands to his face?

She created a character out of what she had seen.

It is a fiction she has constructed to insert herself into the investigation, or curry favour with AGS.

Three times in the same weekend at three different locations, two of which are out of the way or quiet hours. And never before that in 3 months.

It beggars belief.

No I'm not missing the point at all. You keep harping on about this. The point is Marie/Fiona whatever she called herself is untrustworthy. What is truth and what is fiction - as regards Marie I think it's all fiction.

How do you think this would be treated in court?

I'd abandon this line of enquiry. Now more than 25 years onwards, there is no way of knowing who met whom, who has seen whom, or who was saying what.

Yes Marie Farrell can't be relied upon, not back then, not now. But also calling somebody a liar regarding what one may have seen heard or known back then, or not, is also very hard at this point. We don't really know her motivation for doing whatever also, she doesn't strike me as the smartest around nor does she seem to be in any strong position. It was probably easy to coerce her into doing whatever she was to do by whomever.

Marie Farrell was either coerced by police, or not, or coerced by somebody else, also the question whether she's been with another man that night or not, maintaining not having and affair, or maybe having one, also doesn't seem to put her in a strong position as well. I would thus disregard anything she's said, claim to have said, or claim to have seen.

We don't really know if this man was French. Just by description, we're guessing it might be somebody else other than Bailey and he was wearing a beret. This could have been anybody. I would only be guessing that wearing a beret would be unusual in this part of Ireland at that time, suggesting he was a foreigner - but again, this could be nothing as well. Normally being shaven, but not shaving whilst in South West Ireland might imply he might want to change his appearance, - but again, we don't know that one either.

As far as I know the police only checked for the passengers on Sophie's flight, but not on other flights coming into or leaving Ireland around the time of the murder.

She would never have noticed him on the main street of Schull? Where she worked? And he shopped?

Did she magically teleport into her shop without stopping to pass go?

Instead he had to be a regular stalker of women who might have come into her shop?

Who was he stalking on Airhill Road?

Strange isn't it, how Marie Farrell covered so much territory in that one weekend and yet in all the months before not once spotted Bailey... not on the main street... not in any pub... not on any of what seem like frequent car cruises...

She has eagle eyes at 3am to recognise someone with their hands to her face and yet can't tell us that Bailey is bigger than her husband at 3pm in afternoon daylight? Is she a bat!!

You can write this nonsense but don't expect it to convince anyone.

It is a piece of fiction Farrell has created and woven around the case and Bailey. Which the Gardai then got involved in