RTÉ journo given 15months for sexually assaulting woman as she slept

That follow up meeting they had was a bad omen for your man...why did she expect of him as the event outcome couldn't be unfolded at that stage...did she think this could/ wanted it to... lead to a relationship and he laughed it off /agree to disagree which really infuriated her and she felt used and his fate was probably sealed at that stage

Mods can these similar threads be merged please?

If he hadn't pleaded guilty there would have been no conviction here, have no idea why he did, he did nothing wrong.

Depends on the thing. In this scenario the world would have believed the girl anyways so his main "out" is his character and behaviour before but also during the hearing. Hence taking an honest approach. He wouldn't have faired as well if he denied everything I don't think. Not in today's world where the woman is generally assumed to be telling the truth if she's going all the way through the courts.

If a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a noise?

I doubt that.

Anyway consent wasn't withdrawn prior to her going asleep, and who ever said it was withdrawn automatically? That's a new one on me.

Would you not think a girl taking time out of her life to pay for solicitors and go through the court system with the fairly common story of a drunken one night stand who later tried to get things going again after she fell asleep is not more believable than the lad who is denying it? Even though he has to admit he was tipsy and in bed with her and already slept with her? Have to say I'd probably believe her myself. In fact I'd say it happens every single weekend in every country in the world.

Mixed opinions here, I think people need to visualise how beyond creepy a level he took it to. Doesn’t sound like a bit of fondling in the hope of some of action, he was on top of her while unconscious.

It’s also not fair to blame her for waiting a year. Maybe she couldn’t shake it off, maybe she had told herself the same things people are saying on this thread but realised after a year that dismissing it was messing her up?? She can’t win in that situation without simply going to the guards. Her only options are leave it off completely or try get money off him to perhaps pay for therapy but then she had already lost any chance of justice.

That being said, him acting “beyond creepy” doesn’t justify 15 months jail and life ruined, it just doesn’t. It doesn’t solve any problems for anyone.

I believe her trauma could be addressed without his life being completely ruined.

You're completely misapprehending that law, it applies if the person was never in a position to give consent in the first place, which is not the case here.

"She said the night of the attack was the last time she would ever go to sleep feeling safe from attack."

Yet she fell asleep right beside him minutes after the assault took place?

A custodial sentence seems a bit much.

The fact that he stopped when she told him to and that he has zero previous convictions, to get over a year seems a bit much.

Or the other way around. I remember waking up and this woman was on top of me having sex one night after a one night stand, I obviously fell asleep.

User name fits.

But I'm no white knight. Those excoriating the bloke JAILED for 15! months for what was a clumsy attempt at intimacy, when that sadistic Garda cnut basically got 33 months for his horrific behaviour...

As for ruining his life, he did that all by himself!