Toyota bz4X

Could you ask those taxi drivers for Tuesdays Euromillions numbers? As they must have an incredible cry ball to determine that what Toyota have done in the past with ICE cars will translate into their new BEV…

wait til they try and DC charge it more than once per day………. And in winter!!!!

But the specs of the car so far show a mediocre product at best. My old Kona has better specs when it comes to power, torque, battery, efficiency, range even AC charging. So to say that this would be a better workhorse that an ID4 or IQ5 is completely non-sense.

I think the recall is more serious than tighten up some nuts. My understanding is that the bolts are coming off which is quite wired problemm to have as it might be something wrong with the wheel hub assembly.

Google just recommend me an article with 3 reasons why bz is better than IQ5. The ground clearance, has few inches more, the AWD efficiency which is bull as the AWD version of BZ is few hp over the single motor and about 2/3 of the IQ5 power and price which is few 000's less in the US. So even a paid article struggles to find something positive

Compared to other ICEs their hybrids are somewhat competitive. Maybe they are not the fastest but they are reliable and economical. But EV world is different and Toyota has to prove is worth again. Unfortunately this product shows that they are not trying.

My comment about the specs and workhorse was intended to the taximan choosing BZ over other models, comments which started the discussion. I don't defend any company or CEO. They all are the same and will do anything to maximise the profits. Dieselgate is the best example. Right now ID4 or IQ5 are better cars than the yet to be launched BZ4X. Regardless of the recall which will be fixed sooner or later.

The Bz4Xr3i will not be Tesla killer… (Or the next Tesla killer as every year there are 2-3 ‘Tesla Killers’ released which don’t even get in the same conversation with Tesla, never mind kill them!!

it’s Vauxhall conference vs the Champions League

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You are very bullish in your views. One car is not going to wipe out all the others. You have to be connected to Toyota in some way or else just a fanboy. No one car is going to corner the market or put anyone else out of business.

It will sell well if Toyota decide to produce it in numbers as Toyota has a good reputation and lots of goodwill with customers, but its not a special car in any way, particularly the EV elements of it, which appear to be poor relative to the competition.

And where is that coming from? Have you any references? It is not true. Maybe you meant SUV, not EV?

With the production company in Japan shut for all of Aug according to Toyota global …does that mean no deliveries until Sept ?

Add 2 months for shipping.

A great new Carwow comparison review video between the EV6 & BZ4X has just gone up today on Youtube.

But the rear seat levers in the BZ4X don't break unlike the EV6 😂😂

Is BZ better than EV6 at any of the points in the test?

That doesn't answer Innrain question at all. Does the review say that the Toyota is better than the Kia at anything?

Edit: just watched it myself and the only thing they've said that's better than the Kia is that there is slightly more head room and slightly wider in the rear of the BZ (to be expected when the Kia has a more coupe shape).

I had one ordered myself as I really like the shape and style of the car and I am sure people that will receive it are gonna love it. I personally pulled my deposit 2 weeks ago because of the recall delay. I talked to 2 sales guys of AUTOWEBER in Germany (biggest Toyota Dealer chain in Germany) and their delivery delay expectations for non delivered cars due to the recall was September, which was just too long for me as I needed a new car in July. Also, the fact that the Bz4x cars delivered from next year on will have an 11kw onboard charger as opposed to the current 6kw onboard charger was a small deal breaker for me too. I mean the 150kw fast charge is obviously is faster than the ID4s 135kw but its all minimal if you can charge at home or in work like me. The other thing that put me off in the end was that I received a higher trade in value for my current car with VW and the difference was 1500 Euro and the finance was 1% lower for the outstanding amount which made me go for the ID4 in the end, which I also considered before and I am pretty happy with it so far. However, the BZ or Solterra are not bad overall imo. for the Irish Market. The bad reviews it received were mostly form US content creators due to the bad charging curve and that can be an issue for them especially with the longer ranges they face on a daily basis.

There is another nice review of the Bz4x in German which I can highly recommend but you have to use subtitles if you need it in English.

Front right wheel probably fell off 😂

Several people on the BZ4X Owners Groups on Facebook have posted messages in the last day or so saying they contacted Toyota USA directly looking for updates on the recall and have been told that an announcement/letter will be issued to customers and dealerships next week, but that no remedy has yet been found. I assume a similar update will be issued to European customers at the sametime. It doesn't sound good to be honest.😕

Yeah it seems Toyota have messed up something big time….. and their not being open about it…..

Couldn't happen to a nicer company…