RTÉ journo given 15months for sexually assaulting woman as she slept

Apart from the worry of the guards raiding the house while you are in bed with an escort.

Asking women, apparently multiple times, do they really want to ride you is not going to hold any water in court. If someone wants to accuse you of rape then that’s it. Guilty or not guilty the word rapist will follow you around forever.

If you want to ride someone, ask them once and take your chances then.

Before you were getting anywhere? So everything was agreed in advance?

its crazy how women can get away with worse things, a friends brother was on a first date once in the cinema, she puts her hand down his trousers during the film. imagine if that was the other way around. This was before they kissed or anything and wasn't discussed before or anything.

No one here as you well know is claiming the contrary. People are trying to discuss what is and isn't appropriate. The question I asked was, is it wrong to initiate when someone is asleep without sexual assaulting them to which you are still unable to answer or are trying to twist into something else and could you please stop accusing people of being headcases and perverts.

The question of reporting is pure deflection from the point made.

Of course, certain people do not want to follow such points. They picked a side a few hours ago and damn sure they don't want to see how shaky the ground they preach from really is.

They would probably have to re-register if they did that.

He pleaded not guilty, no?

Was found guilty.

some posts here suggesting he pled guilty!!

The law clearly states that someone who is sleeping cannot give consent. Its been posted a few times. That's all you need to know. Do not initiate sex with someone who is sleeping. Wake them up first!

I don't know if you've ever been in a sexual relationship before or do things differently to the rest of us and I cant believe I've to actually spell this out for you to understand but there are different ways of initiation without it having to be verbal. Initiation can be in many forms in the sense of waking up the person. It can be stroking their hair or a simple cuddle etc... Now if that is in some way inappropriate or against the law most of us would be locked up by now. Do you believe couples should verbally declare it to each other that they are about to engage in the act of sex when awake because I've got news for you that's not how it works.

Nice

The prosecution the courts the verdict and the jail sentence were all inevitable in this case because of a confession of sexual assault and a not guilty plea

The verdict was absolutely inevitable, there was no pathway to an acquittal under the law.

But a custodial sentence? No way, it was always a possibility but an extremely slim one given the circumstances and facts of the case.

The reality is they (him and his defence) made a calculated gamble on this mans liberty and unless the court of appeal reduce the sentence to non custodial, they lost and lost badly.

I'm sure that didn't impress the Judge either, but that said she has covered herself by extended every courtesy of an appeal.