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Lidl v. Aldi Cordless Tools

  • 01-04-2021 12:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    So which is best? I will be replacing my old nicad drill & over time, other tools.

    The decision is whether to build around Lidl batteries or Aldi?


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  • Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    two cheeks of the same arse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Top tip.

    Don't build your entire tool arsenal around one brand. Different brands get some things right and some things very very wrong.

    Building around an entire marquee just because of a handful of batteries is mad. I've got multiple tools from multiple marques out there. Some share batteries some don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I wouldn't base everything on one battery. My experience with Parkside has been very good but I also have an Aldi battery mower that's been excellent. The biggest concern is the risk that the batteries will change.

    I would buy another Makita but I use a drill rarely. Most of my light drilling is done with a Milwaukee 12 volt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Picked up the Lidl Parkside drill today plus standard battery with charger having borrowed one previously, very happy with it and perfect for my level and quantity of DIY. 25 + 30 = €55 great value imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭aFlabbyPanda


    We moved into a house last year which needed some work done but I had no existing power tools. I took the plunge on Lidl(parkside) tools. I bought into the single battery for all tools idea. I ended up getting the drill, impact wrench, circular saw, nailer, oscillating multitool, hedge trimmer, and chainsaw.

    Some tools were better than others, the drill isn't great (had problems with the chuck and motor) and the circular saw was terribly under powered (I burned out the motor), however lidl replaced both tools without hesitation. Everything had 3 year warranty and as most came with a battery I've plenty of spares to interchange (I did buy some large 4ah battery's).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭air


    I had a number of Workzone 18V and the later Ferrex 20V tools so stuck with those.

    It turns out that they are made by Positec who make Worx, Erbauer etc. tools so they are compatible with the Worx 20V max range and the previous version Erbauer tools along with a few others.
    This is useful because Worx sell pretty much every tool imaginable.
    The later Active energy 20/40V system is not compatible with anything else that I'm aware of, but Aldi still stock tools on the older 20V system occasionally.

    Lidl's current Parkside system has been around a while and they seem to stock more tools on a more regular basis than Aldi. Their list prices are that bit keener generally I think. They were supposed to have a 4Ah battery today for €30, although I couldn't locate one.

    One final advantage for Aldi is that they do clear tools at very low prices occasionally.
    I managed to pick up a fan with 2 batteries and charger, an impact driver with battery and charger plus an electric plane with battery and charger for a total of €75.
    The plane alone was worth more than that.

    All these 18V / 20V battery systems are essentially just 5 x 18650 lithium cells in a box with a connector and some rudimentary cell and temperature monitoring.
    It would be great for everyone if the EU forced all brands to standardise on a single interface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭cgc5483


    air wrote: »
    I had a number of Workzone 18V and the later Ferrex 20V tools so stuck with those.

    It turns out that they are made by Positec who make Worx, Erbauer etc. tools so they are compatible with the Worx 20V max range and the previous version Erbauer tools along with a few others.
    This is useful because Worx sell pretty much every tool imaginable.
    The later Active energy 20/40V system is not compatible with anything else that I'm aware of, but Aldi still stock tools on the older 20V system occasionally.

    Lidl's current Parkside system has been around a while and they seem to stock more tools on a more regular basis than Aldi. Their list prices are that bit keener generally I think. They were supposed to have a 4Ah battery today for €30, although I couldn't locate one.

    One final advantage for Aldi is that they do clear tools at very low prices occasionally.
    I managed to pick up a fan with 2 batteries and charger, an impact driver with battery and charger plus an electric plane with battery and charger for a total of €75.
    The plane alone was worth more than that.

    All these 18V / 20V battery systems are essentially just 5 x 18650 lithium cells in a box with a connector and some rudimentary cell and temperature monitoring.
    It would be great for everyone if the EU forced all brands to standardise on a single interface.

    You can get Parkside batteries from this crowd in Germany. I got a 4 Ah one a couple of weeks ago for €28 delivered. Seem to be currently out of stock:

    https://www.kompernass.com/de/zubehoer/396/4ah-akku-zu-x20v-family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭air


    Thanks for that, I picked up a lawn mower for a friend, that could be very handy yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Derby1


    Do you recall how much the hedgetrimmer was? I have a hoover and a leaf blower with 3 batteries and 2 chargers. A guy on ebay is selling a parkside 20v hedgetrimmer for €80 (£65), box damaged and bare, so no battery or charger. The only place I see them for sale is USA at $30 bare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭ampleforth


    Bought a pressure washer from Lidl last year and the plastic (!) piping inside broke on me about 1 hour in the job ;) Learnt my lesson.


    On a positive note, their service (located in UK) is hassle-free and fast and they reimburse with few or no questions. So, you really have no risk trying stuff out. If you only use a tool a few times a year, I think the quality is sufficient.

    As others posted above, I would not try to build an ecosystem around their battery system as nobody knows when and how they change things. I agree on the previous point on variety. For battery-run stuff, I have bigger brands like DeWalt and Metabo. For everything corded I go broad, but prefer brands if the price difference is little.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,834 ✭✭✭air


    Sorry I don't ever recall seeing a hedge trimmer, I'm not as familiar with the Parkside stuff but 80 bare sounds saucy if it's $30 in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    Any opinions on the combi drill on sale this Sunday from Aldi? Would be looking for some basic DIY.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭Green Mile


    I have two tools from Aldi that use the Activ Energy battery.

    lidl currently have an electric sander in stock which I need but wondering if the Parkside Sander tool they are selling in Lidl would work using an Activ Energy batter that I bought in Aldi?

    Probably a silly question but the batteries look very similar

    Post edited by Green Mile on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Gus75


    Compatible batteries?

    I've got a 20V ROK drill from Woodies, a bargain at €40 with 2 batteries.

    Now I need a jigsaw and Lidl is selling a nice looking Parkside 20V without battery.

    Has anybody tried a ROK 20V battery on a Parkside 20V tool?

    The batteries seem similar enough but some hacking required...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,329 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    those batteries are significantly different - 5 terminals on the ROK, 4 on the Parkside as well as a different shape where they slot in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I buy the tools I regularly use (combi drill, impact driver, circular saw and sds drill) in DeWalt and then I have a good few of the cordless Parkside tools then that I would rarely use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I know several upset Lidl customers who bought tools, or want to buy but Lidl have run out of batteries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G-Man


    This is getting like phone chargers .. EU should force similar connection standards.. It would allow more interchange and prevent ewaste.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Jessie_520


    thanks for that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    Why ? Power tools are about power and the power comes from the batteries - The technology in the batteries at the high end (Milwaukee etc) are major selling points.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I know the title is cordless tools but if you want proper power tools, either have them corded and running off the mains or petrol engine driven. IMHO.

    I have a cordless screwdriver which is great but that's about it as regards batteries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Why not? Given the right adapter the batteries within the voltage ranges are interchangeable anyway. So if Milwaukee batteries are so good why not use them in a cheaper tool?

    Example Milwaukee batteries in a Ryobi tool https://www.amazon.co.uk/Battery-Adapter-Compatible-Adaptor-Milwaukee/dp/B09D3CWXK6/

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Sounds like Apple breaking the law with their chargers, we can't get enough power for our phone for USB-C yet our more powerful laptop has USB-C!

    What extra technology can you put in a battery? The basic technology is the same, they can use better materials for more energy density but ergonomics means that they are all roughly the same size and weight. Common connections can be done, but then they can't lock you into an ecosystem and have to buy their expensive batteries instead of generic ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Grand, but I don't buy it. Batteries add weight to power tools, which makes them more tiring to use. Then there's the whole environmental aspect of the materials required in these batteries and what to do with them when they are knackered. Cordless power tools do have a place for sure, where it's hard or hassle to run a cable too, but as far as this DIYer is concerned, that's it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    Grand, You don't buy it , That's up to you, Milwaukee literally releases dozens of new tools every year on the M18 Platform. As it stands They have over 200 different 18V Cordless Tools! https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Innovations/M18 So they are wrong and you are right!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,882 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i wouldn't dream of buying a battery powered tool where a mains tool is usable. why have the hassle of keeping batteries charged, the extra expense, as you mention the environmental expense, etc., for little benefit?

    the only battery powered tool i have is a dewalt screwdriver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well, they're only right insofar as they have sufficient customers to buy their products. That's how business generally works - you're only as a good as you're last customer and you supply what the market wants :)

    Apart from that Milwaukee make decent tools, designed to last, as far as I know. Not the tat that comes from Lidl/ Aldi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Agreed, the cordless screwdriver is/was a really useful invention.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭TimHorton




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    Don't Agree, I used to have a Corded Strimmer (Gave up on my petrol one 10 yrs ago) and a cheap Battery Powered Blower that lasted about 6 mins before dying, To edge and cleanup my grass was a pain in the ass as I had to unfurl a 50ml extension reel to strim and the blower did not last long enough. Now I have a Milwaukee Strimmer and Blower with a single 5 amp battery, I get the whole job done in 20 mins without any hassle and it turned what was a pain in the backside task into an enjoyable one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭C. Eastwood


    2 Best invention in the Construction Industry

    1. Silicone mastic
    2. 2. Cordless Screwdriver


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    LOL, I didn't realise you just pottered around the garden with your battery tools. When I do the first cut of the year on our river bank it takes 8 hours with a petrol strimmer. The thought of doing it with battery tools is laughable.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭TimHorton




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    While I'm still awake how do you propose I cut the grass on my river bank? Do I use a battery tool and spend all summer on the job?

    There are jobs that battery tools are excellent for, screw driving is one on them. I can put 200 (probably a lot) more 50mm screws in with one charge on a 4Amp dewalt XR battery, but for garden work the same battery system there just isn't the power their to get much work done. If you are pottering around in a back garden then fine battery tools will do the garden work for you but no way are Petrol tools on the way out particularly when battery tools aren't up to the job.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,882 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    one tool which i have but rarely use which might suit to use a battery version of, were i bothered, is a circular saw. it's a tool you'd move around with and would have to mind where the flex is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    On the whole I find my circular saw lacks power. With a corded tool if you start to go off line you can just force it back but you need to be much more careful with a battery powered circular saw. However its dead handy and saves a lot of time the odd time I do use. Had it up on a roof last year and it made the whole job really easy.

    One tool I wouldn't be without now is my battery powered angle grinder I haven't used either of my corded ones in a couple of years and find something for the battery one virtually weekly.

    Apart from the obvious battery drill/driver I find a battery powered multitool really useful it is probably the best get out of jail free card I have in my tool box.

    Nearest neighbor has all Milwalkee tools and they are excellent probably a little better than my DeWalt but there is quite a large price difference. Neighbor in the other direction has quite a collection of Lidl's battery powered tools and I can find no real fault with them. The only negative which Lidl have fixed recently is their earlier battery tools only had 2Amp batteries.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    My dewalt cordless circular saw is one of my most used tools, but you absolutely have to use with a 5ah or more battery. The current is too high for those piddly 2ah batteries. I think its a fantastic tool, easy and safe to use, not as powerful as a corded but its cuts through mdf, batons with ease and I find it much easier to get a clean cut even without a guide or square. Very handy for the builders providers when you need to cut 16ft lengths to fit in the car, I'd never use a hand saw again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    For what you can buy dewalt starter tools for I don’t think Alidl tools represent good value.

    Screwfix have good deals time to time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    It depends on how often you are going to be using it, I have some absolutely random Aldi/Lidl tools I've bought for one off jobs. For a drill, driver, jigsaw, angle grinder and circular saw I would absolutely go dewalt. You can get a dewalt drill, 2 batteries and charger for about €150 or less.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I did thr same last week. Had to cut some wood to fit the car. Was done in 10 seconds.

    I've an einhell battery powered tiller.

    2 x 18v 4amp batteries. It does the job I need in the garden.





  • Already have a lidl battery and charger. Anyone know if Aldi and Lidl batteries are the same? See a tool in Aldi but don’t want to buying another set of batteries and chargers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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