What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Except it's not discriminatory as any natives returning to Ireland after a stint abroad won't have their contributions and so be factored into welfare payments. I'd been paying tax while abroad for my house/mortgage/landlording, and it was worth a miniscule reference when I sought jobseekers. I was given the most basic allocation because I hadn't been working here for years. Whereas, immigrants have some leeway because they're immigrants.

So, you're completely right about not being entitled to any benefits because natives aren't either. Only those who have remained in Ireland, and contributed gain (and even then, what's considered relevant has an expiry date)

In the US, the Republican Governors of Texas and Arizona have started bussing undocumented migrants let in by Bidens policies to Washington DC (a sanctuary city) and both DC and NY are saying they're completely overwhelmed. Doesn't sound as if they're enjoying this which is odd given their States policies

"Migrants arriving in DC have so far been heavily reliant on local mutual aid organisations for everything from food and assistance to housing and jobs.

Some do not stay long in the nation's capital, reconnecting with family or locating their immigration appointments in other parts of the US.

Washington DC is a sanctuary city, one of many Democratic-led jurisdictions around the country that limits its co-operation with federal immigration law enforcement.

New York City Mayor Eric Adams last week partially blamed the bussing programmes for placing a "real burden" on the city's safety net and shelter system."

You are the one bringing race in to it. It's about two things:

1) Culture. Yes. Culture. As in, traditionally European, Christian-origin culture. You know, the people who've been in Europe for hundreds of years. The descendants of people who created the countries that made the rest of the world want to come and live in.

2) Legal status. If someone is an EU national and comes here legally, pays taxes, then I've got no issue with that. If they are from Moldova or Georgia, are white, Christian, sorry you need to follow the rules and go through the system LEGALLY.

I don't want to discriminate based on religion. You are putting words in my mouth. I was using religion as a loose identifier.

I said Christian-origin. As in, traditionally Europe was made up of Christians predominantly. This is not controversial. It's like saying the Middle East today is mostly muslim.

Sure, they have... however, their numbers and the actual density they represented was very very low. The problem, in modern times, is that population amounts can raise significantly within a relatively short period of time, and ghettoisation based along ethnic or religious lines is a very real thing in Europe.

Oh, and you might want to consider what happened in the past whenever those population centres grew to be noticeable. Yup. Burning torches, pitchforks, expulsion of minorities beyond their borders, etc.

But sure, let's ignore all of that, even though very little has changed since those times in terms of tribalism. What do you think is going to happen when European economies enter a major recession (which is assured at this point), unemployment rises, welfare receipts increase.. etc all the while needing to pay the increased expenditure from migrant groups who don't have the generational wealth to support themselves during those tough times? Who will be considered as being alien and unwelcome in western nations?

Yup. Those who are non-white and non-Christian. But sure, let's increase those numbers so those with a grudge over our economic situation have more targets to choose from.

Makes sense.

Absolutely. While I find PR stunts to be a bit childish and more something belonging to the woke social media mob, I do believe there is a disconnect between the politicians making decisions in their air conditioned offices, versus the consequences of those decisions which they are too far removed from. They need the consequences to be thrown at them, to give them some skin in the game.

It's an interesting one. In Athlone, three housing developments are finishing being built (over the next month or so) and all of them have an asking price of between 240-300k. I suspect it's the same all around the country. Would appear to be an expensive option to house Ukrainians, and the asking price is above the means of many people.

And for renting, small time (single/duo property) landlords are getting out of the rental market due to the rent freezes and the increases in tenant rights. I was part of a landlord mailing list/association for Cork, and the membership list has declined by, roughly, half over the 6 months. Sure, many of them are selling outright while the property prices are high, but again, the prices being sold would be fairly high.

So, honestly, I do wonder where all these new properties are going to come from, or the rental properties for either Ukrainians or the existing renting population. The government seems hellbent on making it hard for small landlords to continue, with a different tax approach for organisations with larger holdings.

DaCor's answer is the lazy answer. It's the same answer that our politicians give (ignoring everything they've done to make it a harder environment to provide housing to anyone). And it's going to be the expensive answer too, due to that same environment they've created, a range of expenditure picked up by the taxpayer, which will contribute strongly to the coming recession. Along with all the anger/bitterness over resources being expended on foreigners while Irish people are struggling.