Neighbours sheep always in my garden??

Reporting him to the regional veterinary office. As part of the rules of having a flock/herd number is that his land is fenced properly to stop disease.

• perimeter fencing should be stock-proof at a minimum and also prevent direct contact between stock on adjoining holdings

Speak to him once more before pressing the nuclear button and contacting DVO.

Make it clear that you'd rather not cause problems for him by doing this but that you will if he doesn't rectify it.

Give him one week to fence them out.

You yourself will be liable for any accident they cause if you put them on the road.

Finally, theft is a crime and some non-farmers and cattle farmers seem to think its fine to steal/eat someone else's trespassing sheep. Its not.

The farmer is obviously a dick, who thinks it's ok to have his stock roaming on other peoples property. I wouldn't bother communicating with him as you'd only be annoying yourself. Just fix it up so they can't get in

Not at all. Sheep aren't deer, most will stop at a 2'6 wire fence plus one or two barbed over it. Ive had a few jumpers who will jump this but they're very rare and always Swale type ewes.

It's his responsibility to keep his stock in, it's not yours to keep them out.

Get a nice fat quote from a landscaper to repair any damage to your garden and see how smart he is.

I've done this in a similar situation, loaded them up and dropped them back to his yard over 10 miles away, I did it 4 or 5 times before he got sick of me, I had a big smile every time I dropped them back telling him his sheep wandered into my place again, he keeps a few quiet cows next to me now with never a bother

Cunce like this need to be handled quickly op, he doesn't care so just report him to the department, make a nuisance of yourself and they'll act, that or get a good dog on a long lead to keep them out

Had something similar here this year .Was getting calls maybe two or three times a day regarding sheep on the road .They were not mine but as I had a good number of them grazing fields beside where they were getting out I was plagued with calls .

The sheep were on the road numerous times a day and grazing flowerbeds and lawns in about half a dozen houses .They (maybe 10 ewes and their lambs ) were being kept in a large garden which was totally bare .

In the end the Garda came and as far as I know the Dept. or some other body removed the sheep .The owners would not be unused to the boys in blue calling though .

From a practical point of view putting up a fence makes sense but no way would I /should you do it .its hardly you who should be paying for keeping out the neighbours stock .That attitude seems to pop up on this forum from time to time though .Know that around here there wouldn't be any sympathy for a farmer whose stock were out regularly .Cattle or sheep can get out on even the best kept farms but for it to happen on a regular basis is unacceptable .

And before anyone comes along and blames "blow ins " for all this with their fancy new houses in the countryside please have a look at your local Petty Sessions (local court sitting ) from 100 plus years ago .Farmer after farmer fined for allowing stock on the road .Eg .Constable X saw paddysdream cow and calf on the road at Y on such and such a day .Result - fine .Farmer B says paddysdream 4 cows and six sheep trespassed on his meadow at A on such and such a date .Result - fine .

Have read through years and years of our local ones and almost each and every farm around here (including both my great grandfathers ) were fined at some stage .

Well you'll find that plenty of houses were built before the 2000s as well.

Newest blow ins just down the road here bought a house parts of which are well over 200 years old (It looks like it was extended over the years and old maps show that too). Another one up the road was bought about 10 years ago. That was some kind of early "council house" from what I can tell. Would have been originally a two room cottage. It would be about 100 years old. More blow ins in a similar one about a mile away in another direction but that seems more modern as in maybe 70 years old. And then the worst set of blow-ins from a nuisance perspective did buy a site and build, but that was over 40 years ago. Planning must not have been automatic back then either because my father remembers that man coming into the area and says the man said he must have had some connections as he bought a small field for agricultural value confident that he would get planning. (As in, my father gives the impression that it would have been a little unusual even back then)

Planning permission was hard got in these parts since the 1990's. So I can't think of any sites that were sold to blow-ins from that time. I gather it is only an old trope thrown out. Maybe in some areas it was less strict.

Edit: I tell a lie. A family not too far from me did sell a site in the 2000s. They would have had an old labourers cottage and about 10 acres. One of the sons (who would have been in his 40s at the time) got permission in his own name and allowed someone else to build the house. They wouldn't be wealthy people by any stretch of the imagination though. I'd have no idea what the person paid him for the land. That son lives in the old cottage still.

And sometimes you just have to man up and do the right thing regardless .

In my situation the " farmers " involved are be people whose reputation ìs unsavory to say the least. Let's just say they are people who fit the description of " well known to the Gardai ".

Every situation is different and no one approach is always correct . Without knowing all the ins and outs we can only speculate.

Do know that if it were me I would be doing something at this stage .

OP, is he billing you for the labour and petrol saving you are getting from not having to cut the grass?

Never mind the value of the fertiliser.

Give an inch take a mile seems to be a guiding principle with the sort of person the op has an issue with .

Sometimes it's best to stay quiet for an easy life but at other times people need to realise that actions ,or the lack of them ( fencing ) have consequences.

Send him a bill for the grass they eat. A tenner a meal seems about standard these days

If that sort of thing would cause sleepless nights then perhaps a person has other issues .

I never mentioned going to court ,solicitor etc .Just get dept etc involved and leave it at that .Let them do the rest .

No need to overthink things .Perhaps if the sheep are hungry the op might consider purchasing some meal for them or even reseeding the lawn and top dressing it so as to grow more grass

Well I have my opinion and you have yours so let's agree to disagree .

From my experience ,and I imagine it's as long if not longer than most on here ,Garda will take these things seriously esp. stolen stock .

In the case of something like the op I would expect the local guard to at least call out and have a chat with the sheep owner .Amazing what that can achieve at times .Small things ignored and left to fester can grow legs the very odd time and at times its best to nip it in the bud .

Again have no knowledge of the situation only what the op wrote but from that my advice would be to do something about it rather than fencing some else's stock for a quiet life.

Perhaps, but life is too short to be falling out with neighbours over a few sheep. The OP should just fence the property if it's bothering them and that's all there is to it.

Don't drive them out on the road if they get hit or cause a crash you're on the hook, it would be just like someone to take a video showing you clearing them.

The easiest options here are when they are in the lawn call the Gardai and tell them you don't know who owns them and they'll actually load them up in a truck and take em away, I've seen it done to cattle and the farmer then has to claim them back

If you want a cheap option for now instead of putting up expensive fencing get yourself some plastic fence posts and the white cord like electric wire it's very cheap and you just push the stakes into the ground and can pull them up again and roll up the cord

I'd get a fence battery then and put 2 lines of the wire and a few shocks will drive em off

All that will be cheaper than a solicitors letter cause I can tell you the only way he'll do anything is if you follow one of the 2 methods cause he's the ignorant type of oul cartnuck that's laughing away to himself over you

Unfortunately it's easy say "why should you have to do XYZ when it's x at fault" but unfortunately for these type of things it doesn't follow how we'd like things to work

Yeah. The sheep will be mortified to be outed on twitter.

You're obsessed with "payments". There is no such "payment" which is contingent on something like fencing.

Nevermind