Bring back the death penalty

As I said, I don’t see the death penalty conversation as an easy topic to navigate objectively. Mistakes are made in justice, why decide that we can’t have one law because it might get something wrong? Oh because it can’t be reversed? A person spending years in jail can’t be reversed either no matter how much compensation they’ve received and people try to console themselves that “justice was done”.

Im thinking of “the life of David Gale” where your man basically gets himself the death penalty to prove this very point. Yeh, some innocent people will die, just like some innocent people will die because of the revolving door system and useless “correctional facilities” that probably make some monsters even worse.

One way of determining death penalty v no death penalty is if it was possible to correlate and calculate how much damage is done by not having it (in certain circumstances) versus the damage done by having it. The death penalty not sitting well with people as a thought experiment or some sort of misguided moral ground is subjective sentiment.

Deciding the parameters of what constitutes a death penalty conviction and what parameters should reasonably mitigate it will be difficult to define, why should that preclude us having a conversation about it? I didn’t come up with modern laws , I’m sure there’s more educated people who can work out the details.

Again, I’m not informed enough on the topic to state categorically yay or nay, I just think a lot of the points used against it are flawed because as much as you can find reasons against the death penalty (and have hypothetical scenarios where it works out bad) you can have counter arguements where its better for society and preventing future victims.

Not just that, the laws we have create wars, have countless innocent victims (including those tasked with policing these laws) and slow painfull death for those stuck in addiction. We already have the death penalty in Ireland in some form, we just give addicts more addictive drugs and then arrest them when they go off the rails until eventually they succumb to their addiction. How progressive…..

But Society does punish the innocent, there is no absolutely perfect or infallible legal/justice system. It’s laws created and enforced by people whom are inherently flawed and open to corruption/mistakes.

Again, is it humane to lock a person in a cage , no rehabilitation and conditions that will probably only harden them further? That’s what we have right now. I can’t see how that’s better for society then removing some of them permanently from society. Again locking them up for life seems even more barbaric, almost spiteful , then humane or progressive.

Best to let 10 guilty go then one innocent? 10 families suffering as opposed to one? The laws of the land do not absolutely favour good or innocent people. Rich people (or institutions) can buy their way around the laws by getting the best lawyers in the land, innocent people are already victims of our laws and innocent people are created because of how our laws work or don’t work.

So somebody murders or rapes your mom or partner or child. They had done it before but served their time and got out. You are ok with this because you are against the death penalty?

I do want our justice system to be more progressive, but I don’t see it as remotely suitable as it stands , especially how our system (and certainty US) probably creates more victims then it protects. Do we have laws that really discourage criminals? Do we protect citizens from these criminals who can come out harder then when they went in? We can’t have a minority report situation but there are scenarios where it’s clear a person will continue their crimes. Why should they be allowed to live?