This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

unkel · 28-07-2022 5:35pm

So I did. €18k for the battery and open to serious offers. I doubt he'll refuse €14k if you waved it in cash in front of him. Which would be a reasonable buy. Or buy the whole car if you were planning to convert a serious sports car like a Ferrari or Porsche to EV. Use the inverter and one or both motors too and various other stuff.

Laviski · 28-07-2022 6:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119399899#Comment_119399899

unless you have installed the dedicated tesla powerwall..??? i'm some folk have got it or looked into it.

unkel · 28-07-2022 6:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119400348#Comment_119400348

That would be some powerwall 😁

Most people with official SEAI grant installs have 2.5kWh or 5kWh. My own one is 20kWh as have a few others here on boards. Not too many will have one that's 100kWh 😎

Laviski · 28-07-2022 11:29pm

referring to https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/powerwall

not taking batteries from the car itself, hence the dedicated version

TheWonderLlama · 29-07-2022 12:26pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh8E42mw21M

interesting build. I know, i know, won't work in ireland, safety issues, yada yada, just thought it's interesting.

slave1 · 29-07-2022 12:35pm

This would work in Ireland, just off grid is all.

If I was going new build in Ireland it would be passive and I would have three inverters with 6 strings and 60kWh-100kWh batteries with high c output and off grid.

unkel · 29-07-2022 1:10pm

Pretty simple build typical for a large or often used campervan / RV. You'd need a much more beefed up system for an off grid home.

And of course it would work in Ireland, what makes you think it won't? It's also fully off grid, so no recs apply / no sparks needed to install or sign off. Personally I wouldn't have Tesla battery modules or any other non-LiFePO4 / Li2TiO3 chemistry inside the place I would live or sleep...

andyr24 · 31-07-2022 6:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119373385#Comment_119373385

Is this still available?

Father in law going looking at one tomorrow

ELM327 · 31-07-2022 9:39pm

Hi Andy sorry I’m not on here when I’m not in work just saw your pm there. Thanks to unkel for giving me the heads up! Car is available, like I say I’m not actively selling it on DoneDeal or anything just mentioning it here.

will reply in pm

TitianGerm · 02-08-2022 8:05pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/reva-i-gwizz-electric-car-/31755210

Bargain for Unkel?

Gumbo · 02-08-2022 8:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119420873#Comment_119420873

We have to stop tagging him here. Leave some EV’s for the rest of us 🤣🤣

slave1 · 02-08-2022 9:04pm

He's welcome to it!!!

Redfox25 · 02-08-2022 9:08pm

If you zoom in on the windscreen, you can see his reflection.

unkel · 02-08-2022 10:07pm

Someone sent me the link to that last week. It's far from a bargain at that money. The sh1tty old lead acids would have to go and replaced with lithium. There is not a hope the car will do anywhere near 60km on the lead acids. Their capacity when brand new is under 10kWh, of which only half is usable. A non-runner / one with a dead lead acid battery would pique my interest at a few hundred quid alright.

ELM327 · 03-08-2022 10:04am

I was considering that one too. You'd need to refit lead acid batteries to get the range back to new. If you want to talk about batteries needing replacement etc and all the crap that people come out with about EVs then it was actually true for the g whizz.

PS Ioniq is still available if anyone is interested.

unkel · 03-08-2022 10:11am

You'd be a fool to fit new lead acids! Waste of money that you will never get back anywhere near what you paid for them. At least if you stick in some LiFePO4, you could always take them out and sell them on for good money (or use them in a different project). Personally I'd probably stick in 16 CALB 200Ah. I bought 32 of them recently which set me back €2300 incl shipping to give you an idea of cost

sh81722 · 03-08-2022 10:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119421160#Comment_119421160

"Reva" in Finnish slang means lady bits. A suitable name for this vehicle in my opinion.

unkel · 03-08-2022 10:13am

And I presume G-wiz means G-spot in Finnish? 😂

sh81722 · 03-08-2022 11:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422697#Comment_119422697

It sounds more like an implement finding one.

kaahooters · 09-08-2022 10:22am

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2015-renault-zoe/31865355

this looks awfully suspicious.

ELM327 · 09-08-2022 10:57am

I saw that. If I had to guess (without seeing the car etc) I'd say someone didnt pay the battery lease and the car was blocked?

unkel · 09-08-2022 10:58am

Not necessarily suspicious. But the battery lease that applies to all of these (when new) complicates things. The new owner will be responsible for keeping up the lease payments. Unless the seller can prove that they own the battery outright. With a letter from Renault Finance (RCI Financial Services Limited). I have such a letter myself for my battery owned Renault Fluence

That said, if it has battery lease, the battery should be fixed under warranty, so maybe it is battery owned after all

But even if it was battery owned, I wouldn't pay anywhere near €3k for it

ELM327 · 09-08-2022 11:18am

Exactly. The residual value in any "older" EV is largely based on the battery. Otherwise you're just buying a shell. How much would you pay for a similar aged Clio with no running engine, because that's what this is.

If he could deliver it to me for sub 2k I'd be interested.

ELM327 · 09-08-2022 11:20am

Going to spam my Ioniq here too as I think it's a bargain (cheapest one on DD) and I'm certainly not buying it!

Hyundai Ioniq for sale in Wexford for €19,000 on DoneDeal

unkel · 09-08-2022 11:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448601#Comment_119448601

You in Wexford now? Depending on exactly where you and the seller are, you could get a non-runner transported to you for around the €150 mark. If I were the seller I'd bite your hand off for offering €1800

What you gonna do with it though, are you happy to retrieve the battery cells and build a home storage battery with it - or to part it out? 😂 That Zoe battery has maybe a usable capacity of 15kWh (being optimistic after 7 years) and for comparison I bought 20kWh of high quality brand new CALB prismatic cells for €2300 delivered recently

...Ghost... · 09-08-2022 11:55am

Zoe no longer available

ELM327 · 09-08-2022 12:01pm

Zoe marked as sold apparently. Chap never got back to me.

@unkel yes we're in wexford now, thats where the new house is. Nice spot just outside ferns, great for solar and a large garage for my various projects - EV and otherwise. Currently two diesels in there. I'd be restoring the Zoe and trying to get it back on the road. Compared to proper running zoes the 2000-2500 delivered price would have given a good few K to source and fit either a recondition cell or worst case a whole new battery. Plenty of videos on YT how to replace a cell.

unkel · 09-08-2022 12:31pm

I hope whoever bought the Zoe didn't spend a cent over €2k and even at that, that was top dollar for what is essentially just a dodgy battery and some other bits

zg3409 · 11-08-2022 7:51am

Not mine. I assume owner is in county Wicklow. On Facebook.

stimpson · 11-08-2022 8:49am

@Barney224 ^^^this might be the one for you if you have cash^^^

This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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