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700 Mhz Spectrum Usage

  • 22-02-2022 12:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know if any of the operators have started rolling out the 700/2300(TS1)/2600(TS1)Mhz spectrum? The spectrum license specified Feb 14th as their commencement date:

    Duration of Licences

    5. (1) The commencement date of a MBSA2 Liberalised Use Licence shall

    be specified in the Licence and, in respect of spectrum rights of use for:

    (a) 700 MHz Duplex Blocks shall be 14 February 2022 or such other

    date as may be specified by the Commission;

    (b) 2.1 GHz Band Blocks in Time Slice 1 shall be 16 October 2022;

    (c) 2.3 GHz Band Blocks and 2.6 GHz Band Blocks in Time Slice 1

    shall be 14 February 2022 or such other date as may be specified

    by the Commission;

    (d) 2.1 GHz Band Blocks, 2.3 GHz Band Blocks and 2.6 GHz Band

    Blocks in Time Slice 2 shall be 12 March 2027.

    (2) A MBSA2 Liberalised Use Licence, unless it has been withdrawn or had

    its duration reduced under Regulation 7, shall in any event expire:

    (a) in the case of 700 MHz Duplex Blocks on 13 February 2042;

    (b) in the case of 2.1 GHz Band Blocks, 2.3 GHz Band Blocks and

    2.6 GHz Band Blocks in Time Slice 1 on 11 March 2027; and

    (c) in the case of 2.1 GHz Band Blocks, 2.3 GHz Band Blocks and

    2.6 GHz Band Blocks in Time Slice 2 on 13 February 2042.

    (3) The commencement date and expiry date of a MBSA2 Spectrum Lease

    Licence shall be set by the Commission and specified in the MBSA2 Spectrum

    Lease Licence. A MBSA2 Spectrum Lease Licence to which these Regulations

    apply shall in any event expire on or before 13 February 2042.

    (4) The commencement date and expiry date of a MBSA2 Preparatory

    Licence shall be set by the Commission and specified in the MBSA2 Preparatory

    Licence.

    (5) The commencement date and expiry date of a MBSA2 2.3 GHz Band

    Transition Licence shall be set by the Commission and specified in the MBSA2

    2.3 GHz Band Transition Licence.

    Source:

    Hoping the repeater manufacturers will accommodate the new frequencies in the coming 12-24 months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    (a) 700 MHz Duplex Blocks shall be 14 February 2022 or such other

    date as may be specified by the Commission;


    The multiband auction hasn't taken place yet, still awaiting judgement from the High Court in the case taken by Three Ireland against Comreg in relation to certain aspects of their auction Decision.

    Reserved Judgment was due to be delivered at the end of November but was adjourned, not sure why, but further submissions were lodged in November including the day prior to the listed delivery date, maybe the judge required further time to evaluate the submissions prior to delivery of the judgement. It was listed for last week but doesn't appear anything happened.

    The 700 MHz band licences have a hard expiry date of 13th Feb 2042, any delays in carrying out the auction and awarding the licences means the MNOs will have a reduced duration.

    In the mean time I believe the band is being used by the 3 MNOs on temporary (rolling) 3-month Covid 19 spectrum licences, the current ones expire April 1st.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    I was wondering what happened with that court case. The last news report I found on it was back in june

    . Where did you get the update from November? The courts service website?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Is this the best source of info?

    It's very sparse. Are the orders/submissions not publicly available?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Only the judgement is made available at some point after delivery.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Looks like the "trials" are live in my area 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    This is the temporary Covid spectrum licences, at some point they will end. The auction will take place and the spectrum allocation will take place.

    Three are allocated 2x10 MHz under the current temporary licences but will only be able to bid for 1x10 MHz slot due to the <1 GHz spectrum cap, one of the issues before the high court.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Current 700 MHz temporary allocations

    • eir - 703–713 MHz / 758–768 MHz
    • Three - 713–723 MHz / 768–778 MHz
    • Vodafone - 723–733 MHz / 778–788 MHz


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    You could try putting last year's court direction to the test once the order has been made.

    1) In the interests of transparency and consistent with the principle of open justice, any member of the public may seek access to the written submissions provided to the Court by parties in proceedings in accordance with the following Practice Direction.

    2) This Practice Direction applies exclusively to written submissions in civil proceedings provided to the Court at a hearing by any party and in respect of which an Order has been made by a Judge of the High Court giving Judgment in those proceedings that same be made available to members of the public on the terms set out in this Practice Direction.

    3) No Order as referred to at paragraph 2 above shall be made in cases heard in camera, or cases where there are reporting restrictions in place pursuant to statute.....


    10) A copy of Written Submissions for Public Release in any given case may be sought by a member of the public by sending a request to the Principal Registrar at the Central Office. That request should identify the name of the proceedings, the record number of the proceedings, and, if available, the date of Judgment and the name of the Trial Judge.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    In today's Sunday Times, MNO lobbying for tax relief on future spectrum auction





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Hard to know where to start with this. It's a bit like a mobster's shake-down.

    Does anyone have a reference to the "expressed policy decision [by Government] taken in 2003" ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Found it, Finance Act 2003 amendment to the Taxes Consolidation Act, 1997, Part 29 Chapter 4 Section 769. Tax relief for the purchase of spectrum licences is not allowed under this amendment.

    Amendment of Chapter 4 (transmission capacity rights) of Part 29 of Principal Act.


    20.—(1) Chapter 4 of Part 29 of the Principal Act is amended—


    (a) in section 769A(1), by inserting the following after the definition of “capacity rights”:


    “ ‘control’ shall be construed in accordance with section 432;


    ‘qualifying expenditure’ means capital expenditure incurred on the purchase of capacity rights, but does not include expenditure incurred on or after 6 February 2003 which consists of a licence fee or other payment paid to the Commission for Communications Regulation in respect of a licence or permission granted by that Commission on or after that date under—


    (a) the Wireless Telegraphy Acts 1926 to 1988, or

    (b) the Postal and Telecommunications Services Act 1983 ;”,.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    (great sleuthing there btw)

    ComReg have extended the Temporary licences for another 3 months possibly six from 2nd April, but the long term auctions may happen in the meantime. No specific coverage conditions and fees of €100.

    ComReg proposes to implement the same licensing framework as set out in Document 21/96 and S.I. 501 of 2021 for the period 2 April 2022 to 1 October 2022, with the exception that the 2.6 GHz band would not be included...


    ....ComReg expects that this will be the final temporary ECS licensing framework on the basis of the Temporary Situation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Short consultation followed by issuing of 3 months licences, fairly routine now after 2 years.

    Likely to be the final round of temporary licences, up to 6 months

    • Based on current information, ComReg expects that this will be its final proposal to put in place a further temporary licensing framework on the basis of the Temporary Situation,
    • the MNOs should now begin to make transition plans and take actions in advance of the end of the presently proposed temporary spectrum licences in light of the Temporary Situation,

    Temporary licences will not guarantee MNOs any future spectrum rights post MBSA2 auction

    • Such temporary licensing frameworks were and are intended solely to address the Temporary Situation and are entirely without prejudice to the award of spectrum rights of use in the MBSA2 
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    High court case 2021/9/MCA, adjourned again last Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Just looking again at the hopeless coverage conditions from the ComReg Decision. Which seemingly include all spectrum bands cumulatively.

    85% population coverage = 30% geographic coverage (see map below, using CSO small areas)

    92% population coverage = 50% geographic coverage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    2021/9/MCA before the high court last week on the commercial court motions list, Order made and adjourned

    Back before the court again on July 7th on the commercial court motions list.

    Not sure which side or judge is submitting the motion and for what reason. More than 6 months now since the judge reserved judgement and 18 months since this came before the court.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush



    Hoping the repeater manufacturers will accommodate the new frequencies in the coming 12-24 months.

    Stelladoradus have a range of repeaters that now include the 700 + 2600 MHz bands.

    Ofcom in the UK recently allowed the use of 700 MHz band repeaters, Irish regulations not updated yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Thanks, looks like they're marketing them as the iRepeater. Pity they don't include the 2300 Mhz band. I guess there's only so much they can practically wedge in there!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The 2300 MHz band is TDD spectrum like the 3400-3800 MHz band, so will likely be used for FWA primarily. The 6 bands covered by repeaters 700/800/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz is paired FDD spectrum.

    They also have a 700 MHz home multi-band repeater in their recent brochure, SD-RP1002-VLGDW 700/800/900/1800/2100, not available to purchase here yet it appears (on sale in Spain €1610). Could be an upgrade of their current SD-RP1002-LGDW 800/900/1800/2100. Probably see further 700 MHz versions as the band becomes available.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush



    High Court 7th July 2022

    IN COURT 2 (Capacity 44) MR JUSTICE MCDONALD AT 12.00 O'CLOCK

    FOR HEARING (REMOTE)


    2021/9 MCA | THREE IRELAND (HUTCHISON) LTD & ANOR -V- COM REG(App's stay application)

    2021/9 MCA | THREE IRELAND (HUTCHISON) LTD & ANOR -V- COM REG |(FM)(Dirs)

    High Court 8th July 2022

    IN COURT 2 (Capacity 44) MR JUSTICE MCDONALD AT 11.00 O'CLOCK

    FOR HEARING


    2021/9 MCA | THREE IRELAND (HUTCHISON) LTD & ANOR -V- COM REG(App's stay application)

    2021/9 MCA | THREE IRELAND (HUTCHISON) LTD & ANOR -V- COM REG |(FM)(Dirs)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The reason for the court hearing, before a different judge - Three Ireland seeks stay on Comreg's July 25 broadband spectrum auction (Irish Examiner)


    Comreg opposes the stay and says the award process should proceed to ensure the 5G roll-out goes ahead


    Mobile phone network operator Three Ireland is asking the High Court to put a stay on the communications regulator's move to go ahead later this month with a new auction system for the awarding of spectrum bands for mobile and wireless broadband services.

    Three is seeking the stay in circumstances where it awaits a judgment on its main challenge to Comreg's December 2020 decision to hold a multi-brand spectrum award which will assign rights across four spectrum brands for the next 20 years.

    Comreg opposes the stay and says the award process should proceed to ensure the 5G roll-out goes ahead and meets EU targets to make spectrum available throughout the State.

    Comreg's 2020 decision provides for issuing new rights, in the 700 MHz, 2.1 GHz, 2.3 GHz and 2.6 GHz bands, by way of a “combinatorial clock auction” whereby participants bid on generic lots of spectrum rather than individual lots.

    Three Ireland (Hutchison) Ltd and Three Ireland Services (Hutchison) Ltd, part of the CK Hutchison Holdings multinational conglomerate, claims this would put it at a competitive disadvantage. Three sought an order that the court set aside certain parts of that decision on grounds that it has made significant error or errors of fact and/or law and/or assessment.

    Comreg denied the claims and a judgment on that appeal is awaited.

    In the meantime, Comreg said it intends to hold the auction on July 25 next with an October 2022 completion date.


    Three submission

    On Thursday, Three asked Mr Justice Denis McDonald to order a stay on Comreg commencing the main stage of the auction process pending the outcome of the main appeal to the High Court. Vodafone and Eir are notice parties.

    Brian Kennelly SC, in submissions on behalf of Three, said if a stay is not granted it was possible that the judgment on the main appeal "could land" in the middle of the auction process which would create great uncertainty in the market. Vodafone and Eir were rather unusually supporting the stay application although they are main competitors, he said.

    If the auction goes ahead, there is very likely to be strategic bidding which would cause a major prejudice to Three's ability to compete in the market and also harm consumers, he said. A system of compensation for losses Three incurs, as devised by Comreg, "will not fix that", he said.

    If the pending judgment results in the auction process having to be re-run, that will create further uncertainty, he said.


    Comreg submission

    Margaret Gray SC, for Comreg, said her client believes the status quo should pertain and the auction should proceed, not least to ensure the 5G roll-out. Comreg believes the issue of the stay falls or rises when one looks at whether there was serious and irreparable harm to Three. 

    Three had not met the test for that, counsel said. Any harm there would be would be financial and that is capable of being repaired, she said. The public interest required the auction proceed and this far outweighed the harm claimed by Three, she said.


    Vodafone submission

    Niall Buckley BL, for Vodafone, said while his client supported Comreg in the main case, it believed there should be a short stay on the auction. The critical point was the timing of the auction and the uncertainty because the main judgment is awaited, he said.

    This tipped the balance in favour of a short deferral of the auction to allow the judgment to be delivered, he said. The hearing continues.

    Also here - Three Ireland seeks stay on auction of mobile and broadband spectrum bands – The Irish Times

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Comreg this week published what is expected to be its final Covid temporary spectrum licensing information notice. According to the notice no further licences will be issued beyond Oct 1st this year.

    Having already indicated this in the current round consultation we now have further clarity of their reasoning in that they plan to begin the MBSA auction at the end of this month and complete it in Oct. In the consultation they said the following ...

    in relation to the duration of any new temporary framework, .... ComReg would remind interested parties that it is progressing the MBSA2 award process, and it is possible that some spectrum rights could be assigned via the MBSA2 within the duration of the further temporary licensing framework proposed in this document.

    It appears the original plan was to auction and award award the licences prior to the expiry of the current temporary licences in Oct but 3 Ireland may throw a spanner in the works with its motion to stay the auction until Justice O'Moore delivers his judgement on the main appeal.


    COVID 19 Temporary Spectrum Licensing – July 2022 update and end of COVID-19 temporary spectrum licensing on 1 October 2022 | Commission for Communications Regulation (comreg.ie)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Not hard to see why Vodafone and Meteor are supporting this. Continuation of spectrum fees at €100/qtr suits them fine.

    ComReg's 5g arguments, as reported, sound pretty weak given that they are only targets and, AFAIK, they're liberalised use (technology neutral) licenses.

    Expensive CCA auctions, requiring teams of maths professors and game theory PhDs, create an obvious barrier to entry, as does effectively requiring exclusive rights of use.

    The case for single RAN sharing, at least in the rural 96%, is stronger than ever; ComReg have deliberately learned nothing in twenty years. Despite lip service to coverage it's all about maximising spectrum fee revenue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Single RAN sharing, is this open RAN, trying to get my head around this new technology?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    Had single RAN sharing been deployed effectively in any major market? Was aware of OpenRAN, but understood it to be mostly around not having vendor lock in for all the components. RAN sharing is new to me....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    BEREC call it Multi Operator Core Network (MOCN) sharing.

    There's a summary of sharing types here on pp.11-13



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    https://www.telecomtv.com/content/digital-platforms-services/what-s-up-with-wfh-in-the-netherlands-ireland-s-spectrum-squabble-azure-s-supply-chain-issues-44911/


    Ireland, the combinatorial clock is ticking. Mobile operator Three Ireland is petitioning the Irish High Court to issue an injunction that would prevent the country’s telecoms regulator, Comreg, from pursuing a new system for auctioning wireless spectrum, which was due to be introduced later this month.


    Three’s argument is that the new auction process should be stayed pending a final ruling on Three’s earlier legal challenge to Comreg’s decision, made in December 2020, to award spectrum across four bands for the next 20 years. Comreg contends that there should be no delay to this month’s auction because it would severely impact the rollout of 5G technology across Ireland, to the disadvantage of both enterprises and consumers, and cause the Irish state to miss long-set and agreed EU targets for the provision of 5G.


    Three’s main bone of contention is that Comreg’s 2020 decision would see new spectrum rights allocated in the 700 MHz, 2.1 GHz, 2.3 GHz and 2.6 GHz bands, via a mechanism known as a combinatorial clock auction (CCA) whereby interest parties bid for generic lots of spectrum rather than individual lots.


    The CCA is an important recent innovation in auction design and has been adopted for many spectrum auctions worldwide. Three Ireland says this method puts it at a competitive disadvantage. Brian Kennelly, senior counsel for Three, submitted that should a stay not be granted, the judgement on the main appeal “could land” in the middle of the auction process itself, which would result in “great uncertainty in the market”. He added that both Vodafone and Eir (formerly Eircom) support the application for the stay despite being Three’s major competitors.


    Brian Kennelly added that if the auction goes ahead as planned on 25 July, “strategic bidding” by others would prejudice Three’s ability to compete in the Irish market and thus harm consumers by denying them a better competitive environment. He branded as “insufficient” Comreg’s system to compensate Three for any losses found to have been incurred during the process.


    In response, Margaret Gray, senior counsel for Comreg, argued that the status quo should remain and the auction proceed to meet the EU timetable for the introduction of 5G. She added that, for Comreg, “the issue stands or falls” on whether there would be serious irreparable harm to Three, and there wouldn’t be any given that the only possible harm, the loss of money, would be compensated for in full. For its part, Comreg reiterated that the auction will take place on 25 July, and that the entire bandwidth allocation and licensing process will be over by the end of October this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Three took part in the 2 previous CCA auctions, MBSA1 in 2012 and the 3.6 GHz auction, what's their issue with this one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Three's objections are here.

    Three's objection is that because of its existing holdings and the sub-1GHz spectrum cap it will have fewer combinations to choose from and Meteor and Vodafone could bid strategically to "each get a price discount on their first lot that is not available to Three."

    Summarised later here including others objections.

    In general, the issues that remain on the auction mechanism seem to be with the use of time- slicing; the expiry of Lots in the 2.1GHz band; and the asymmetric cap which produces a discriminatory effect particularly in the 700MHz band. There is then also the overriding issue with the choice of auction mechanism. Overall, we note that there remains opposition to the proposed use of Time-Slicing from all respondents. We note that Eir (like Three) does not believe that the Combinatorial Clock Auction (CCA) mechanism proposed is appropriate for this award but instead favours an award based on a Simple Clock Auction (SCA). Three agrees with Eir on this point and has previously submitted a proposal for an award based on a SCA. Vodafone it seems only favours the use of a CCA if the “complex set of lots emerging from the Time Slice structure“ remains. We also note the view from Imagine that CCA disadvantages smaller bidders but they are reluctant to change to a different format if that would add complexity and disadvantage smaller bidders. It would seem that the format which most suits respondents is one where Time Slices are eliminated and a Hybrid SMRA is used, or alternatively if Time Slices are retained then a SCA similar to that proposed by Three is used.

    We note that neither the respondents nor ComReg have put forward any reasoned/considered factual argument for limiting Three’s activity in the auction to less than the other MNOs, while both Vodafone and Eir objected to being limited to bidding on 2 lots of 700MHz spectrum as is currently the case for Three under ComReg’s proposed rules. No analysis based on concrete evidence has emerged from ComReg or the other competitors to show why it is appropriate to limit Three in this way but not the other two mobile network operators. It has been portrayed that we are somehow trying to get some advantage in the auction, which is clearly not the case – we are only seeking a level playing field. We also reiterate that Three has not objected to ComReg’s proposed spectrum caps on their own, it is the combination of the caps and the CCA auction mechanism which is our main objection.


    Three's legal issues seem to be that ComReg have not provided sufficient 'reasoning' to support the claim of harm to competition (if an alternative format was used) or that their current remedy is 'proportionate' and 'non-descriminatory', i.e handing back some of their sub-1Ghz spectrum prior to auction.

    Good luck to the judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    By coincidence Colm Burke TD asks a question about shared infrastructure to address coverage.

    ...if consideration will be given to using a portion of the funds to the Exchequer to invest in collaboration with the telecoms industry on a shared rural network, including all three operators to address coverage black spots...

    The Minister replies

    The proposals [licence conditions] include significant coverage obligations for prospective winning bidders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Warning over decline in mobile service quality as Covid measures are withdrawn | Business Post

    Article in yesterday's SBP on the ending of the Covid temporary spectrum licences

    Some critics have suggested Comreg's plan to withdraw the temporary spectrum may be a tactical move to force mobile operators into an auction of new mobile radio spectrum.


    The auction has been delayed after Three Ireland last year initiated court action against the regulator, claiming its decision to impose caps on how much spectrum individual operators could have left it at a disadvantage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Some critics have suggested Comreg's plan to withdraw the temporary spectrum may be a tactical move to force mobile operators into an auction of new mobile radio spectrum.

    Odd view of the world. Looks like positioning for a blame game. Not sure if author is representing some interest.

    Presumably the judge would first decide on whether a stay on the auction is appropriate while he decides whether there's any merit in Three's arguments about the auction, and if so whether he should impose a remedy of his own or hand it back to ComReg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Looks like Mr Justice McDonald will deliver his judgement tomorrow

    High Court 20th July 2022

    IN COURT 13 MR JUSTICE MCDONALD AT 14.30 O'CLOCK

    2021 9 MCA THREE IRELAND -V- COMREG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Judgement reserved and hearing adjourned yesterday, on the advanced warning list today, likely to give his decision on the stay today.

    The High Court will give a decision on Thursday on an application by Three Ireland for a stay on the communications regulator’s move to go ahead later this month with a new auction system for the awarding of spectrum bands for mobile and wireless broadband services.

    ...

    The judge said any stay he granted was likely to be in place for just a few months until the judgment in the main appeal was delivered. Comreg would be entitled to apply to the court if it was considered there was any harm to the process of awarding the new spectrums, he said.

    Among the reasons in favour of granting the stay, the judge said, was that Three would suffer serious and irreversible harm if it is successful in its main appeal and a stay had not been granted.


    Decision due on Three’s request for stay on Comreg auction move – The Irish Times


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Short stay granted by the high court today, until the decision is made on the main appeal.

    Decision delayed from yesterday to allow Three give an undertaking to compensate Comreg if they suffer any loss because of the stay.

    High Court stay puts Comreg's imminent broadband auction on hold (irishexaminer.com)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Comreg information notice on the auction process and court appeals to date

    Information Notice – Multi Band Spectrum Award – High Court grants stay on commencing the Auction | Commission for Communications Regulation (comreg.ie)

    • In June 2021, a number of Interested Parties submitted the Phase 1 Application Documents to ComReg and subsequently became Applicants in the MBSA2.

    • On 27 May 2022, Applicants submitted the Phase 2 Applications Documents and deposits to ComReg, and shortly thereafter, on 31 May 2022, Applicants were informed by ComReg whether they had qualified as Bidders in the MBSA2. In this communication, ComReg also notified Bidders that a Main Stage (i.e., an Auction) would be required, and ComReg subsequently set the start date 11 July as the start date for the Main Stage.

    • On 2 June 2022, Three applied to the Commercial Court for a stay on the commencement of the Main Stage of the MBSA2 Auction (the “Stay Application”) pending determination of the Appeal.

    • On 17 June 2022, ComReg informed Bidders that the start date of the Main Stage would be deferred to 25 July 2022, in light of the hearing of the Stay Application, and in circumstances where the time available from 25 July 2022 to 15 October 2022 could accommodate the MBSA2 being run, and necessary steps being taken, in order to award licences in advance of that later date.

    The stay could affect exiting spectrum short term rights in certain bands, consultation process underway to get views from interested parties. Possible extension to the temporary licence process beyond October maybe?

    Information Notice – The potential issue of short-term rights in the 2.1 GHz band and possibly in other spectrum bands included in the Multi Band Spectrum Award | Commission for Communications Regulation (comreg.ie)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    In opposing the Stay Application, ComReg, with the assistance of its external economic advisor Dr Maldoom(6) emphasised the importance of proceeding with the Auction and awarding long term licences. Dr Maldoom and a report prepared by an independent witness, Professor Peter Clinch, put the overall cost to the economy of a delay in the award of these long-term licences in the order of magnitude of €1billion per annum. Therefore, even a 3-month delay could cost the Irish economy in the region of €250m.


    (6) Doctor Dan Maldoom is a founding Partner of DotEcon Limited and expert economic advisor to ComReg.

    Hard to feel any sympathy for ComReg. They've neglected to mention that DotEcon is the chief beneficiary of the CCA auction process.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    How does a UK company benefit from the auction process?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    This is due back before Justice McDonald in the High Court, listed for October 17th.

    Not know why but it'll be approx 3 months since the order was made to stay the auction by that date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭scottigael


    Not sure why Comreg are throwing a tantrum over the court stuff and threatening to withdraw the 700mhz band completely and not just extend it till the judge makes his decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    I think that listing was posted before he granted the stay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    No, it came after.

    The High Court goes on "long vacation" now until early October, no judgement on the main appeal until at least early October. I wonder if there is a 3 month review in the stay Order?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    ComReg appeal the 'Stay' to the Court of Appeal. Hearing set for 19th October.

    https://www.comreg.ie/media/2022/08/ComReg-2270.pdf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    That doesn't explain the Oct listed High Court date, for Mon that week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Possibly the listing is a placeholder for Judge O'Moore's reserved judgement on the main proceedings heard last year. So if it doesn't happen, the rationale for the stay is undermined.



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