"Green" policies are destroying this country

Ireland cannot afford to build two nuclear power stations. It requires two (at least) in order to guarantee supply. It will never happen and no one will ever pay for it. Stop **** banging on about an impossible scenario.

The Government will consider introducing a windfall tax on energy companies in September's Budget, according to the Taoiseach. They also seem open to the possibility of LNG.

The difference is the renewables are been built so your point is ?

DOE, IEA, me.

The demand curve is very predictable. Not so the supply curve from random generation sources. The unpredictable nature of the supply is why grid balancing services are becoming more expensive and complex to maintain, in response to the shortfall of dis-patchable power, Eirgrid engages in demand side management (DSM). Using smart meters for demand side management are absolute proof the government has utterly failed in it's task of providing abundant, reliable electricity supply. They are working on schemes that will turn off devices in your home or premises that use too much electricity such as electric vehicles, within the next 4 years the supply situation in Ireland will at times not have enough dispatchable power to meet demand.

green policies i dont think will destroy the earth, the same way i dont think non green policies will wreck it.

i've said this before...someone just needs to release the data (if the data dont exist, how can there be a debate).

what countries and industries are the main cause of climate change. a few pie charts would be ideal.

till that is established, its near pointless.

in ireland, if we went 100% green (and i mean 100% - everything), how would that combat climate change?

I posted it on the previous page. Don't expect any responses from the Greenies here. For whatever reason they seem to go completely schtum when it's pointed out that the wheels are already falling off the trolley of their energy nirvana. We are facing absolutely savage costs for their ill thought out experiments. Unfortunately it's going to take some time before the chickens fully come home to roost. We will be too far down the road of energy poverty and security by then to easily row back. For Ryan et al., of course, that's exactly what they want.

Consider that all of our lives, the lifespan of our parents, grandparents, great grandparents, great-great grandparents i.e. since the end of the little ice age we have been living with catastrophic anthropogenic global warming aka climate change™. This period coincides with the agricultural and industrial revolutions and a massive human population increase.  The evidence is this is beneficial to human welfare which has in general improved especially in the period since the fall of communism from the late 1980s and can be measured on on any aggregate metric for human welfare you want to look at.   That is not to deny there are no problems to be dealt with, we don't live in paradise and human nature has not changed in millennia which is why we keep repeating the same cycles of war. Ask ourselves would we rather live in a pre-industrial society or todays 21st century?

Consider that in the 19th century at times there were more people in Ireland than there are living here today. We are mostly the descendants of the people who survived that period. How did the people in the 19th century keep warm? A combination of turf, timber, coal, animal dung. If you look at the forestry maps of Western Europe compared to today, there is more forest today. Why is that?  How about the fact that Ireland s climate is conducive to the spread of potato blight, combined with the political system this led to complete disaster when the staple crop failed.  How about typhoid, cholera & diarrhoea these are not problems in Ireland today because of civil engineering we live cleaner & healthier lives. All that is built on the availability of cheap and available energy.

Climate change™ is a vehicle of convenience for control of wealth and power, it is nothing to do with changing weather patterns. Even conceptually the idea that humans can control natures cycles is nonsense, though, we do pray for divine intervention to bring us good weather to get the harvest & turf in when the weather is bad.

You are asking for data, what you will get are projections generated by computer programs and fed with assumptions by people with vested interests in the outcome. The error bars on those projections become larger as they project out further in time, these things have no predictive skill, in other words their value as a basis for making decision about the future is 0, their function is to amplify present day media propaganda.

Fundamentally the current debate is about how we consume energy now and will be permitted to in the future. Green policies to restrict the extraction and consumption of primary energy sources have major consequences for us who live in an ecological and economic system that has been built on access to these resources. The "solutions" being promoted by greens have hard technological engineering and physics limits, the greens do no have answers for these and resort to magic thinking, since these systems must be designed and built years in advance it is clear that current roadblocks being implemented by the current government will have a material impact on our lives.

So the smart meters that are currently being installed- do we know is there a remote switch to cut supply, built in to the meters?

It would have to be a fairly chunky switch I imagine as you could be breaking a fair amount of current depending on the load of the house.

I presume he has made plans to try and store this fuel in the event of constraints on natural gas?

Except Ryan has no plan for where the gas to fuel these "emergency" plants is to come from. He keeps repeating the lies that we are not dependent on Russian exports and that gas will still flow from the UK come what may. We may not consume Russian molecules, but we (and the UK) will be competing with everyone else for the remaining available supplies. His head in the sand over LNG and indigenous sources is embarrassing. Don't take my word for it -- the Irish Times is all over it today: