Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

That's bonkers. Irish Times also has one about a mechanic shop on North strand that will be put out of business because their customers may have a 3 minute diversion if coming from the Northern direction. The hysteria is off the charts and the media love it

Divert up Griffith Ave, down Philipsburg Ave, right then stay left and along to NCR at Ballybough. Simple.

If you leave at 09:30 tomorrow you’ll sail it in. It’s very quiet with schools off and on a Friday.

My mother is a OAP blue badge holder with a debilitating illness. She wouldn't dream of driving to the city centre nor is she interested in retail parks, she finds it 100% easier to get public transport & if she was to drive she'd avail of the ample blue badge parking and Bus in to An Lár.

Very good. Nice try questioning her disabilities & needs... stay classy.

She has mobility issues due to her illness. She uses public transport, loves her city, deserves to use & enjoy both public transport & the city.

Leaving the merits of the project aside there are going to be signifcant traffic issues with this diversion. It might not be apparent immediately given school holidays and annual leave season but it will happen eventually as we move into Autumn/Winter when car volumes increase as the weather gets worse.

Firstly while Ballybough Road isn't as busy as North Strand it does carry a significant amount of traffic so pushing all of the North Strand traffic onto it as well will hugely test its capacity.

Secondly Fairview Strand is generally quite clogged in the mornings already without now having to take all of the North Strand traffic. The light sequences at Edges Corner, Philipsburgh Avenue and Richmond Road are going to have to be looked at otherwise traffic is just going to pile back into Fairview and beyond. However I bet no thought has been put into trying to work out sequencing to give more throughput of traffic from Fairview which will be necessary.

Finally for traffic which then wants to get back onto Amiens Street at the Five Lamps there is no right-turn filter (to the best of my knowledge) at the Portland Row junction so the increased amount of cars trying to do that may cause further congestion around there as well.

As a semi-regular bus commuter on this route from the Malahide Road I will be interested to see if bus times into the city do improve as a result of these changes. Personally I don't think they will because there are very few places on the route where traffic interferes that much with the inbound bus lane and the works will do nothing to resolve the outbound issue that happens with the Malahide Road only being one lane outbound until you reach Clonliffe Road.

You just don't get it.

Just to add that you need the traffic filter to be on for this to display

He hasn't gone away you know.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/after-three-years-of-screaming-and-shouting-im-forced-to-close-businesses-anger-at-car-ban-on-busy-dublin-route-41890848.html

"Would you prefer that Dublin has no new infrastructure built? People complain all the time about Irish water and the wastage in the system because of the old network. This project is improving the water infrastructure in this area. It is also improving the bus lane infrastructure. Its not just a cycle lane. What is your alternate proposal?""

Exactly. Look at the Shannon pipeline furore...."omg the Shannon will run dry because of the dreaded Dubs" bullshit or the inability to pedestrianise city centre streets. In my neighbourhood a DCC plan to put in trees on a certain road was stymied by the a few residents since it might interfere with their precious two car driveways. Nimbys are part of the delay in blocking the completion of the Royal Canal Greenway etc etc. Go any sunny day to the Bull Wall bridge and look at the antics of the car zombies trying to get to the very edge of the water. Every school entrance is a racing pit lane twice a day. Walking, not to mention cycling, is for losers.

If they where building houses and needed to do the same with the road you'd still have people moaning.

Is there anywhere in Dublin City where public transport is 25 minute walk away? Perhaps the centre of the phoenix park?

The amount of outraged residents and counsellors in the coming weeks will be a thing to behold. Will the no private cars into town thing be enforced does anyone know? What's to stop people just driving anyway?

Revised road markings have been laid down on Fairview Strand, and the Luke Kelly bridge. Seems designed to enhance traffic throughput going southbound, but it won't achieve much if people still want to stop their cars at the Chinese takeaway or the pharmacies.