General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

TV and Fixture changes for August

Friday 5 August

20:00 Crystal Palace v Arsenal (Sky Sports)

Saturday 6 August

12:30 Fulham v Liverpool (BT Sport)

17:30 Everton v Chelsea (Sky Sports)

Sunday 7 August

14:00 Man Utd v Brighton (Sky Sports)

16:30 West Ham v Man City (Sky Sports)

Saturday 13 August

12:30 Aston Villa v Everton (BT Sport)

17:30 Brentford v Man Utd (Sky Sports)

Sunday 14 August

14:00 Nottingham Forest v West Ham (Sky Sports)

16:30 Chelsea v Spurs (Sky Sports)

Monday 15 August

20:00 Liverpool v Crystal Palace (Sky Sports)

Saturday 20 August

12:30 Spurs v Wolves (BT Sport)

17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal (Sky Sports)

Sunday 21 August

14:00 Leeds v Chelsea (Sky Sports)

14:00 West Ham v Brighton*

16:30 Newcastle v Man City (Sky Sports)

Monday 22 August

20:00 Man Utd v Liverpool (Sky Sports)

Saturday 27 August

12:30 Southampton v Man Utd (BT Sport)

17:30 Arsenal v Fulham (Sky Sports)

Sunday 28 August

14:00 Aston Villa v West Ham*

14:00 Wolves v Newcastle (Sky Sports)

16:30 Nottingham Forest v Spurs (Sky Sports)

Tuesday 30 August

19:30 Crystal Palace v Brentford (BT Sport)

19:30 Fulham v Brighton (BT Sport)

19:45 Southampton v Chelsea (BT Sport)

20:00 Leeds v Everton (BT Sport)

Wednesday 31 August

19:30 AFC Bournemouth v Wolves (BT Sport)

19:30 Arsenal v Aston Villa (BT Sport)

19:30 Man City v Nottingham Forest (BT Sport)

19:45 West Ham v Spurs (BT Sport)

20:00 Liverpool v Newcastle (BT Sport)

TV and fixture changes for October

Saturday 1 October

12:30 Arsenal v Spurs (BT Sport)

17:30 West Ham v Wolves (Sky Sports)

Sunday 2 October

14:00/16.30 TBC Leeds v Aston Villa (Sky Sports)

14:00/16.30 TBC Man City v Man Utd (Sky Sports)*

*Subject to Man City's UCL participation on 4 Oct

Saturday 8 October

17:30 Brighton v Spurs (Sky Sports)

Sunday 9 October

14:00 Crystal Palace v Leeds (Sky Sports)

16:30 Arsenal v Liverpool (Sky Sports)*

19:00 Everton v Man Utd (BT Sport)

*Subject to Liverpool's UCL participation on 11 Oct

Monday 10 October

20:00 Nott'm Forest v Aston Villa (Sky Sports)

Friday 14 October

20:00 Brentford v Brighton (Sky Sports)

Saturday 15 October

12:30 Leicester v Crystal Palace (BT Sport)

17:30 Spurs v Everton (Sky Sports)

Sunday 16 October

14:00 Aston Villa v Chelsea (Sky Sports)

14:00 Leeds v Arsenal*

14:00 Man Utd v Newcastle*

16:30 Liverpool v Man City (Sky Sports)

*Due to clubs' UEFA matches 

Tuesday 18 October

19:30 Brighton v Nott'm Forest (Prime Video)

19:30 Crystal Palace v Wolves (Prime Video)*

20:15 AFC Bournemouth v Southampton (Prime Video)**

*Moving to 20:15 if BOUSOU moves to 19 Oct

**Moving to 19 Oct 19:30 if SOUWHU moves to 16 Oct because of West Ham reaching UECL group stage

Wednesday 19 October

19:30 Liverpool v West Ham (Prime Video)

19:30 Newcastle v Everton (Prime Video)

20:15 Man Utd v Spurs (Prime Video)

Thursday 20 October

19:30 Brentford v Chelsea (Prime Video)*

19:30 Fulham v Aston Villa (Prime Video)

19:30 Leicester v Leeds (Prime Video)**

20:15 Arsenal v Man City (Prime Video)***

*Moving to 19 Oct 19:30 if Chelsea play in UCL on 25 Oct

** Moving to 20:15 if ARSMCI & BRECHE move to 19 Oct

***Moving to 19 Oct 19:30 if Man City play in UCL on 25 Oct

Saturday 22 October

12:30 Nott'm Forest v Liverpool (BT Sport)

17:30 Spurs v Newcastle (Sky Sports)

Sunday 23 October

14:00 Aston Villa v Brentford*

14:00 Leeds v Fulham*

14:00 Man City v Brighton**

14:00 Wolves v Leicester***

14:00 Southampton v Arsenal (Sky Sports)

16:30 Chelsea v Man Utd (Sky Sports)****

*Due to both teams playing on 20 Oct

**Due to ARSMCI on 20 Oct; Will move to 22 Oct if City play in UCL on 25 Oct

***Due to LEILEE on 20 Oct

****Subject to Chelsea's UCL participation on 25 Oct

Monday 24 October

20:00 West Ham v AFC Bournemouth (Sky Sports)

Saturday 29 October

12:30 Leicester v Man City (BT Sport)*

17:30 Fulham v Everton (Sky Sports)

*Will move to 19:45 if Man City play in an away UCL match the Wednesday before

Sunday 30 October

14:00 GMT Arsenal v Nott'm Forest*

14:00 GMT Liverpool v Leeds** (Sky Sports)

16:30 GMT Man Utd v West Ham (Sky Sports)

*Due to Arsenal UEL participation

**Subject to Liverpool UCL participation on 1 Nov

Odegaard the new captain of Arsenal that really has turned intot a great move for him.

This is fantastic from Everton hats off top class.

But it's not total dominance though. They're being pushed all the way by a very good Liverpool team and winning leagues on the last day by a point, not running away with it every year. Plus they seem to be going through a transition this year which could see then drop back a bit.

2 of the last 5 titles they have won by a single point, German fans would be loving those closely fought battles. Lump on to City for another title if its sewn up already. I think it won't be close this year, Liverpool will be too strong and too determined to grind it out.

The won the title last season by a single point with a goal with 10 minutes left. The only season in the last 4 where they dominated was the one where Liverpool had to play 2 reserves at center half! I expect the exact same this year, nip and tuck between City Liverpool again. Bayern haven't had to break a sweat in 10 years so you can't compare...I actually think this season is set up to be cracker, I'm looking forward to seeing Spurs under Conte again and I think they could push the top 2 hard. They wont win it but they will get closer to them that the rest.

Recon unless there are serious injuries that it will be a close fight again for 1st and 2nd with it impossible to call between Liverpool and Man City.

The CL spots will be very interesting. spurs seem to have recruted very well, chelsea ( unless they get a few in ) seem to be lacking at the back also Tuchel throwing a few bombs around - Will he get what he wants or be out the door before the end of the season?

Arsenal have bought reasonably well BUT !!!

man U will greatly depend on who they get in before the window closes. Cant see anything bar a fight for 5/6 place.

Leicester seem do be disimproving and mid table

Bottom 3 will be a fight again - can see bournmouth, brentford ( in serious trouble without CE) southhampton everton and forest fighting it out to stay up. will greatly depend on who gets a decent start

It's going to be very interesting ,

The top 2 both going for old school number 9s might give up some control in games but could also see them taking more of there chances,

Arsenal & Spurs could take big leaps this season both look to have recruited very well to add to the styles they tried to play last season but if it goes wrong both mangers cold be gone by next summer giving the size of the spending ,

Chelsea seem like there is no plan and just a scatter gun approach to signing players , They are high quality but is there a clear plan to fit them all in ,

United have signed Erikson , Martinez (ball playing CB) & hoping to get De Jong so its quite clear its possession based football there going for, The problem is they let in a massive 57 goals last season so unless they keep the ball like City they could find themselves in trouble they don't have great players out of possession ,

Some rumours that DCL has picked up another injury. Everton could be in big trouble again this season.

Is it just me or does Arteta look like he’s been done with CGI in the bit starting at 18 seconds? Definitely a touch of the uncanny valley about it at least.

Pep knows how to grind out the PL , Haaland will be a monster as soon as the players know how to get it to him . He was poor last game v Liverpool and could have got 2 .

The basic idea is a good one, to try to simulate a similar environment... I'm not sure playing an anthem on some speakers at what doesn't sound like a very loud level is really going to do that though... like, i think whatever you're going to do will need to be a lot more intense and visceral than that to be of any meaningful use. Like, maybe having each player wear headphone's that are blaring disorienting crowd noise or something, so the players can't even hear each other as they try to play, might be interesting.

You seem to have a misunderstanding of what the word total means.

I could be wrong but the other players who have been mentioned as leaving where not in the match day squad,

Ronaldo got subbed & then went and sat with them in the stand & when they left he did to ,

Again as far as i know

City and Liverpool top 2 again, Chelsea and Spurs fighting for 3rd/4th, Arsenal and United then outside bet for 4th.

I do the see the gap narrowing between 2nd and 3rd though not the usual 20 points.

If the greatest goalscorer to ever lace up a pair of boots is proving difficult to manage, then it probably means you're not a very good manager.

It's more a case of the latest Glazer puppet doing their bidding by trying to move on one of the club's greatest players, while the fans - who spent the last months of the previous season waving green and gold scarves and screaming Glazers out - lap it up, before they dust off the scarves months later when the same old untreated issues resurface.

Wrong thread

Peter Drury has retired from Premier League Production to join NBC Sports, so he wont be on the international feeds anymore.

He will be a big loss.

Never got the love for him. He's puke inducing with his over the top pre-prepared lines he's dying to fit into his commentary.

I know a lot of Liverpool fans have thought for a while Tyler didn't like the club due to how upset he sounds when they score but seems to have confirmed it today with some garbage he spoke on the radio this morning ,

"The BBC has been hit with an influx of complaints over veteran football commentator Martin Tyler's "crass" Hillsborough comments.

The Sky Sports commentator appeared on BBC Radio Four's Today programme shortly before 9am today speaking about 30 years of the Premier League. But listeners were infuriated by Mr Tyler's comments about Hillsborough after he associated the tragic events, found by an inquest jury in 2016 to have been the result of unlawful killing, with "other hooligan related issues".

Mr Tyler said the Premier League came "not too long after Hillsborough and other hooliganism related issues".

The players are indeed harder to like, the money is criminal (literally in some cases), the owners aren’t likeable, less chance of small teams beating big teams etc.....But without it I’d probably be made love island or something. Play FF as if it makes you more interested that’s a good thing.

Now, Leicester, what’s going on there? Schmeichal gone, maybe Maddison, Fofana and Tielemens as well? No new signings either. Brendan might walk.