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General Race Thread 2022 **spoilers**

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    #1322
    mewso
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    Thankfully it seems nothing very serious from the Burgos crash considering how bad it was. A few riders out obviously. Touze had brain trauma/concussion which I'm hoping sounds worse than it is. From Poland Bora's statement was strange. Mentioned the crash, the fact the Mullen finished in the top 10 and a quote from him but at no point mentioned who crashed. I had assumed it was Sam but no confirmation from the team itself.



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    #1323
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    Maybe it was Archbold, he's a DNS for the ITT today according to Declan Quigley there.

    Sam just started and looked grand, no bandages I could see.



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    #1324
    Dodge
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    More than half the peloton crashed. Sam was one of the last to finish but given the same time as the winner so definitely one of those involved. Presumably not serious enough to mention as they’re all starting the TT today



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    #1325
    breezy1985
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    Cavendish pulled out but it's to go race the Commonwealth Games.



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    #1326
    odyssey06
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119428023#Comment_119428023

    I see there's live coverage of the Commonwealth road race on BBC1 sunday.

    I'm guessing the finish might suit Cavendish if he's dropping out to race it?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #1327
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    They're doing Picon Blanco in Burgos, they used it last year and in the Vuelta too I think, the views were pretty cool.



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    #1328
    retalivity
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119428354#Comment_119428354

    I remember watching that with Bardet winning. Looks a lot different today!



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    #1329
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    I was laughing at the Euskadi rider near the top tucking in behind the moto , they said something to him and then it cut away. Next thing he's seen getting back on. Probably asked him if it wanted a tow !!! I couldn't quite hear 😂



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    #1330
    [Deleted User]
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    This is a ride from Sivakov.



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    #1331
    [Deleted User]
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    Give that lad a pen to sign his new pro contract 😀



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    #1332
    mewso
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    In fairness even second would have been worth a contract in that company.



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    #1333
    Dodge
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    Young Darren Rafferty was 8th at the commonwealth games ITT. 2:50 behind winner Rohan Dennis (Fred Wright 2nd, Geraint Thomas 3rd).



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    #1334
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    Wow thats some placing from Thomas, he crashed as I flicked over to check on it earlier.



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    #1335
    eagle eye
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    Rafferty is one to watch. Only 19 and he's really improved a lot this year. He has a lot of potential.



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    #1336
    mewso
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    An Irishman at the commonwealth games? Is he dual citizenship? No judgement just curious.



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    #1337
    retalivity
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430461#Comment_119430461

    He's from the North somewhere. Lydia Boylan is down to take part for NI as well, isn't she from Dublin? Not sure what the criteria is.

    That gymnast McClenaghan had to go to court to take part, he was barred as he represented Ireland in the Olympics.



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    #1338
    neris
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    Just saw that crash at burgos, some carnage. Looked an ag2r rider wrapped up in the barriers with bikes no where their riders



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    #1339
    Squidgy Black
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430565#Comment_119430565

    Rafferty’s from Tyrone, I’d assume Boylan must have a nordie parent and be eligible for a UK passport



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    #1340
    dastardly00
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    If Thomas hadn't of crashed, would he have won? (based purely on the time he lost during the crash)



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    #1341
    mewso
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    By the by speaking of Irish talent I see Dan Martin has his bio coming out end of the year and it's called 'Chased by Pandas'. Can't wait.



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    #1342
    Squidgy Black
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430713#Comment_119430713

    It’s hard to say because he might have just gone absolutely full gas after the crash vs whatever power plan he had before like a negative split etc, but yeah more than likely would’ve won it



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    #1343
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430716#Comment_119430716

    He spoke about it on the cycling podcast during the tour, sounds like it'll be worth a read.



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    #1344
    MangleBadger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430565#Comment_119430565

    Lydia's mother is from the North as far as I know.



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    #1345
    Macy0161
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119430565#Comment_119430565

    I think that was the International Gymnastics organising body, rather than the Commonwealth games, that tried to block him. There's a long history in other sports of Irish Olympians also representing NI in the Commonwealth games.

    In fairness to Cavendish, I think he's generally tried to represent the Isle of Mann when he can in the commonwealth games, regardless of the course?



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    #1346
    MangleBadger
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    Race Director at Burgos doesn't see too much wrong with the finish...

    Organisatie Vuelta a Burgos legt fout voor massale val in rit twee bij David Dekker | WielerFlits


    Race director Marcus Moral does not want to bear the responsibility of the crash and puts the blame mainly on Dekker. "It was not a speed bump, but a zebra crossing of no more than 2.5 centimeters high. On a slope," claims the Spaniard. "This obstacle was indicated by markings on the ground and by the flagging of a signaller. We showed the last three kilometers to the riders in the preparation. It is impossible to find a trail by removing roundabouts or passages like this."

    "It's a mistake by David Dekker," says the race director. "He has now seen that and asked for forgiveness. That's what I'm doing now. I'm not saying it's just the rider's fault. It's everyone's fault. But we cannot attack the course organization if the obstacle is indicated. I think the last kilometers of the second stage were correct. We take our responsibility, but we should not be demonized for that," Moral said. Due to the fall, several riders gave up.



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    #1347
    Macy0161
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    I'm kinda loath to stick up for race organisers, but... the way traffic calming has (rightly) gone, it's probably a choice between out of town finishes (which no towns will want to pay as much for), or some obstacles in the final.



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    #1348
    Dodge
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    Archie Ryan 7th in a tough stage in the Sazka Tour in Czech Republic. Stage won by Lorenzo Rota of Intermarche. Archie finished 4s back with Italian champ Filipo Zana

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/sazka-tour/2022/stage-2



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    #1349
    retalivity
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    Sam in a great position with less than 1k to go, gets boxed in and drops the head, again.



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    #1350
    dastardly00
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    I've looked at that finish a few times now and I'm struggling to think why Sam gave up other than he didn't have the legs. The snapshot below is from ~250 metres to go. Sam (red arrow) is just behind the stage winner Demare (blue arrow). Given Demare's position and how he managed to win from there, I don't think the reason for giving up was that he was boxed in 🤔

    TdP.PNG




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    #1351
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    He was on Kooij's wheel, I need to see it again to see how he lost position as I was watching on my phone. So do Bora send him to la Vuelta or go all in for GC? Roglic isn't certain to start at the moment.



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