Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

Would the evaluation not satisfy the public consultation requirements? Seems to be fairly clear on what the stakeholders want. Or will they go shopping for another opinion?

No, it wouldn't.

Last year's closure consisted of some dudes in orange suits staring at their phones and moving cones occasionally.

What the Council will propose now, in fairness to them, is a comprehensive scheme to enact a permanent closure and the consequences thereof, like new street furniture, new traffic signals, spending to cater for diverted and relocated public transport and other traffic. The scope of that in cost terms as well as physical changes in the public space requires a Part 8 and its correct that they intend to carry one out, even if I intend to contest quite a bit of what it will likely contain.

Be great if they could get electric golf cart type vehicles to ferry disabled and elderly around pedestrian zones. Just like the airport.

it’d remove much negativity around great schemes

As I've heard from older relatives and their friends, they alight those services at the DART station Terminus, then join the next departing 46A, 63 or 75 and ride it around to the stop at Bloomfields. Usual wait is less than 5 minutes, thanks to the frequency of the 46A in particular and with the free travel pass, its no bother to them to do it.

They have the option to change along Crofton Road, or to cross from outside the Pavilion to the DART station Terminus, as they always have done.

Either way, the outline proposal to close George's Street Lower to public transport, between Patrick Street and St Michael's Hospital entrance, will remove accessibility to those who need it most and will not be accepted, if I have anything to say about it.

Whats your point?

Is it that because it might be only a few dozen, they don't matter?

The Hospital is only part of the argument anyway. Across the street is Bloomfields, with Tesco, Dealz, Boots and Argos.

Drive by the Bus Stop outside Argos almost any time and you'll see people with a lot of groceries waiting for a Bus.

Laugh away hen, but no matter your chatter, the existing bus access down Lower George's Street WILL be maintained when this debate is all over, because that is the wish of people in Dun Laoghaire who have the ear of the political parties who are in the majority on the Council when it comes to adopting Part 8's and so that will be the decision of those parties.

Try not to be too disappointed.

Specious eh? I've another fancy word for you, its 'obtuse' - deliberately or insensitively slow to understand, you should be familiar with the act.

My argument that public transport accessibility for older and less abled people, to the heart of the town, should be maintained, speaks for itself.

The Councillors will be the ones, ultimately, to defend it.

Weekly scheduled roadworks bulletin is published here and on DLR social media.

By the look of this, Monkstown Avenue is to be resurfaced, works taking place from 10-4 each day, with a stop/go system. Hardly worth avoiding I would have thought.

My point I suppose is that if they are able bodied enough to push a cart around a large shopping centre they could probably make it the 200m to the bus stop at the top of Marine Rd without keeling over

The first stop on York Road is 300m from Bloomfields, serves all three routes, and avoids the dizzying heights along Marine Road.

The two walking routes from Bloomfields to the nearest Citybound stop on York Road, are either 400m or 500m.

Right, so still less than the 700 metres necessary to return to the terminus.

Anyway, in common with Homesick Alien, I haven't canvassed the infirm of the county on the matter so will bow to your superior knowledge and compassion.