Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

I'm not facing a diversion at all becuase I'm using public transport. I'm just worried if my commute is affected. I stated that I wasn't against the development but don't let the facts get in the way of your righteousness.

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What I've noticed from those pictures is that there are two inbound lanes through Fairview unlike yesterday where there was only one. This was the concern I raised because it didn't make sense.

No I haven't moved any goalposts. This is a year-long (at minimum) diversion. Therefore judging it on one day in August when traffic levels are generally at their lightest is simply no reflection of what might happen. Maybe it won't get worse but you can't simply post pictures from today and say we're not allow check this ever again.

"Are you deliberately ignoring Donna Cooney's comment that the 6km of upgraded water mains is what is causing the majority of delay and disruption for this project?"

Its not Irish Water notices coming in people's doors . IW didn't pick this up last week and have had as long as they liked to let people know about it.

Why would anyone go near Fairview coming from Laois or any of the other places listed?? Absolutely no reason to go near it.

I don't see how improvements like this can be made without disruption anyway. The amount of moaning from snowflake motorists is just ridiculous.

Did you even read any of my posts? I never "predicted" traffic chaos. I was worried about it on the basis of the lane layout that I saw yesterday. It seems that those were temporary which resolved my initial concern about traffic through Fairview from a public transport point of view. But I stated that given the levels of traffic at this time of year it probably would be too early to know what exactly was going to happen here over the course of the diversion.

And yes I'm fully aware that you can't do major infrastructure change without some disruption. However disruption needs to be managed in the best way possible and it seems that this hasn't been managed well, especially from a communication point of view.

The problem here is that the entire change is being implemented under the title "Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project" so it's only natural the people assume all the disruption is because of the development of a cycle lane. It probably should have been labelled differently given the nature of the project.

It really is unfortunate because it does create an anti-cycling atmosphere which is unhelpful.

" A cycle lane doesn't take a year to build" Tell that to the people who live on Grange Road Rathfarnham where a cycle lane project meant to last 4 months has over-run by 300%. Also, a sunny Monday in early August is unrepresentative of traffic conditions in the medium term.

However the media take on this is disgraceful. The Irish Times saw fit to publish a letter to-day from someone who seemed to think that the disruption was purely due to traffic-related road works: no mention of water mains. The letter went on to say that the 62m should have been spent on housing. Ill-informed garbage as usual in the IT!

From the Irish times last week:

“North Strand Road is the main route into the city centre, so I think a lot of people on Monday are going to be in for a surprise when they see that they have to divert,” he said. “Traffic is already bad on North Strand Road. Now, it’s going to be a nightmare.”

So removing traffic from the road is going to make the traffic on that road worse?

Why are people commuting from surrounding counties traveling into the city centre in a car via Fairview? Did the letter drop informing local residents of the change need to go to households in Dundalk as well?

The road isn't closing for the majority of users though.

Took a walk through Fairview a short while ago (13:00). Everything moving along swiftly on all routes. Two lanes up to Edge's corner with the PT lane separated by bollards in advance of the junction. I can only guess that many people are avoiding the area. Swords Road was fine this morning too, nothing unusual at all.

The traffic will build up as the schools start back etc. But like I have said before. Fairview is and has been a mess for years, so that will be nothing different. Again plenty of alternatives for people to use should the need arise.

And guess what, you can still drive into town right now from Clontarf or Killester or Artane and move along fine. Amazing stuff!!