Is the importation from America of Identity politics a good thing?

It isn't a good thing, and I was on here talking about it something like eight years ago.

Apart from everything else, it reduces people to predictable sponges who soak up whatever their particular "identify" believes in. It's sad enough when you see people base their views on the world around their politics without adding all these extra groups they feel the need to conform to.

There are posters on this site I know the exact opinion of on every topic under the sun. Stuff that's never even been talked about. At least it's completely impossible to guage my view on a topic just because you know a few of my other views.

My post, and I also think the other poster, weren't complaining about Black history month. It was an example of the Identity politics manifesting here. I honestly couldn't care less if there's a Black history month.. I can ignore it quite easily. However, the question as to why it happens, considering both our own history and our demographics brings up the question of why... and rather than get an answer to the why, you get a deflection towards racism or some other nonsense.

The attitude is that we should ignore all of this. Nothing to see here. It doesn't affect you. But that's how the PC movement became so established in the US.. people ignored it, until it did become established and affected them directly. That's why we should be asking why... and not accepting the deflections/dismissals.

And that context is imported and encouraged to be accepted within our own society and culture. We have no history of slavery. No history of racial discrimination against Black people. No history of racial superiority. It makes sense to have such remembrances in countries with a history of such things, but it makes no sense to do so in Ireland.. unless the agenda is to reinforce the status of victimhood for that ethnic group. As the other poster said, Black people are held as a collective group, irrespective of their individual histories, with the agenda being applied to them all.. the push of the Black history month (not the month itself but the message attached to it), encourages an idea of white guilt, that we are all responsible based on our own ethnicity for what happened in other countries by peoples very different to ourselves.

And that's why such things should be questioned. It's a propaganda drive, and propaganda has a long history of gradually changing the minds of people, of establishing itself within the accepted truths of culture, and if left unquestioned, it will become established here.

It's not about equality. If it was about equality, the emphasis would be on everyone coming here to become Irish, and accepted as Irish. No different from the native group. No differences based along ethnic lines. Multiculturalism, and the mechanisms of such propaganda, aim to reinforce divisions so that minorities are elevated, and held distinctly different from the others. And that's what we've gotten from American identity politics, and it's worked so well for them..

You are pretending there is consistency and equivalence among various groups and that any group can organise anything. There isn't the same equality. Consider how the media would cover a hypothetical "White Pride" parade? Racist, white supremacist, yada yada yada would be the terms used to describe it. It would probably be banned under "public safety" fears.

In the past, Democrats and Republicans would co-operate much more. There are voting records of Congress that prove that they would often support each other's proposals. Nowadays everything is hyper partisan, and everything is challenged and fought over to a degree unheard of previously. I would admit Trump did make things worse in this regard by refusing to accept that he lost. But on the other hand the Dems did something similar with all that Russia nonsense, albeit Clinton did concede defeat officially on the night.

That's an ideal type of diversity, where everyone shares similar experiences (the airport), has similar goals and a comes from similar educated backgrounds.

Unfortunately that type of diversity is very rare. The far more typical type of diversity is what exists in cities like London, Brussels or Paris. Enclaves. Millions of identities with very little in common among some groups.