The DP World Tour Thread

OEP · 29-06-2022 5:42pm

The money will be a lot more than the KFT though do you might get more Americans chancing the ET instead. Still a feeder tour, but it has been for years now and has really gone to the dogs since covid

slave1 · 08-07-2022 6:19pm

At 10over I’m not too surprised at Padraig missing the cut, but JT on the same score!!!

Rikand · 09-07-2022 7:00am

Watching the Scottish open really makes you realise how we are missing a trick by not having the Irish open on links.

The desert swing is in winter time, you have the florida swing for another example leading up to the Players, we could be part of the links swing in july. Such a missed opportunity

Mantis Toboggan · 09-07-2022 7:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311856#Comment_119311856

Missed opportunity for who?

It was on a links for many years, was it any better?

The Big Easy · 09-07-2022 10:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119311898#Comment_119311898

Yes, hugely, Rahm won it twice, he doesn't want to come to Ireland to play parklands

The Big Easy · 09-07-2022 10:05am

There must be an opportunity to do so, as the Irish Open exit survey asked which courses you would like to see the Irish Open at and Lahinch, Portstewart, County Down and one other links course were options, Adare was there too.

Mantis Toboggan · 09-07-2022 10:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312572#Comment_119312572

Why? He's happy enough to play parklands in the US, what's wrong with here?

Reality is the links courses and their members don't want it also the players don't want to play 3 links tournaments in succession.

Rikand · 09-07-2022 10:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119312615#Comment_119312615

The players want the links practice ahead of the open and while they might not play all 3 tournaments in a row. Look at all the pictures of the players playing ballybunion, tralee and other courses this week. They want links practice.

Looking at recent irish tournaments, the last 3 all had Strength of Field in the low-mid 100s. When it was on links in the 3 previous, Strength of Field was between 200-300. When it was a royal county down, SOF was north of 300. The only time a parkland in the last 10 years has had a SOF above 200 was 2016 when Rory got all the buddies to come over to watch him win in the kclub.

The best golfers in the world want to play links ahead of The Open. It's obvious

The Big Easy · 09-07-2022 10:31am

Obviously being a Rolex event helped too, but if it's a links every year two weeks before the Open, you can guarantee the field will be a hell of a lot better than currently.

Plenty of players don't like to play the week before a major, so for those the Irish Open on a links two weeks before would be perfect prep.

Mantis Toboggan · 09-07-2022 10:59am

Mcllroy was able to get a few stars from the US by asking for favours, they never played an irish open for practice. I remember watching Rickie Fowler is County Down, thermals, gloves and 2 hats, said to a few that he isn't coming back and he hasn't!

Might move to the week after the open next year and I think that would be a good move.

rickis tache · 09-07-2022 5:10pm

Do links clubs want to host an Irish open?

Have ballybunion, tralee, baltry etc come forward and offered their club/course to the organisers?

Maybe they don't want to host it?

Honest question.

Would it really increase income to many clubs that have already very full timesheets?

Seve OB · 09-07-2022 6:14pm

Back to the K Club anyway I believe next year

slave1 · 09-07-2022 7:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119313961#Comment_119313961

They don’t, apparently, such a shame, even lesser know tracks like Ballyliffin is better than Mt Juliet

Trampas · 10-07-2022 5:55am

which players want to play links competition. Different playing different links courses over a few days than 5 days on same course with lots of media attention and asks to do.

After the British open unless you give them a bigger than normal wheelbarrow they’re going home back across the Atlantic

Does anyone got names or is it just hearsay

slave1 · 10-07-2022 12:40pm

Love to see Ricky qualify for The Open, strong day today required

paulos53 · 04-08-2022 6:24pm

James Sugrue is the latest player to have his golf clubs go missing at an airport. However it has done him no harm so far.

He got a lend of a set from Mikko Illonen and shot 7 under to take a 1 shot lead on the Challenge Tour.

big_drive · 04-08-2022 6:56pm

That's crazy to think he'd do that with borrowed clubs, shows how good those guys are now that you can hand them anything and they can score well. Not like most of us here that think the clubs are the problem every weekend 🤣

benny79 · 05-08-2022 9:50am

Would they not be able to just get another set of the tour truck on site? Sure there at most events.

Mantis Toboggan · 05-08-2022 10:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431673#Comment_119431673

Probably no tour trucks at challenge tour events.

He may hold onto those clubs, 4 under through 9 holes!

benny79 · 05-08-2022 11:34am

more in relation to Lowry

08-08-2022 2:43pm

Looks like Keith Pelley continues with his weak leadership as DP World tour CEO re allowing the LIV golf rebels playing on the main tour. This week Richard Bland will tee it up in Northern Ireland. Next week in the Czech Masters, Ian Poulter, Sam Horsfield and Laurie Canter, who like Bland have played in all three events of the controversial Saudi backed tour, will also tee it up in the Czech Republic. Pelley must be told to go, shocking and shambolic leadership from the Canadian.

callaway92 · 08-08-2022 2:54pm

European Tour literally needs those players to have some quality in their fields. I don't blame them

paulos53 · 08-08-2022 3:07pm

On what grounds could Pelley suspend the LIV tour players?

The European tour has no problem with their members spending most of the year on other tours (PGA Tour) and returning for a few big money events. From a legal standpoint I assume they are unable to change this approach just for the LIV tour.

The European tour can also have few moral objections. They were quite happy to be part of sportswashing when they held an event in Saudi Arabia for 3 consecutive years. It is a bit late to take offense to it now.

Dr Turk Turkelton · 08-08-2022 6:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119445314#Comment_119445314

If Pelley had a set of balls he would use this opportunity to grow the unfortunately named DP Tour and invite all the LIV golfers to play for OWGR points.

I remember back in the 90's when I was young the European Tour was almost as prestigious as the PGA Tour and the big names teeing it up in a lot of big events.

It's now like a challenge tour- just look at the Irish Open a few weeks back and look at the list of previous winners of it.

abff · 09-08-2022 10:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119446259#Comment_119446259

With the change in the world rankings system that comes into effect this week, the points on offer for this week’s DP World Tour event are lower than the points that were on offer for last week’s Challenge Tour event. 😱

This is even with the inclusion of the LIV rebels.

The OWGR website is showing projected first place points to 5 decimal places. How’s that for spurious accuracy?

The projected points on offer for the PGA Tour, DP World Tour and Challenge Tour winners are 68.55296, 8.16824 and 3.96426 respectively. This compares to 24 points and 12 points respectively for last week’s winners on the latter two tours.

I’m not sure who runs the OWGR, but these changes sound the death knell for all but the PGA Tour. Crazy that the other tours have allowed this to happen.

09-08-2022 11:57am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448468#Comment_119448468

The challenge tour now has fewer points than the europro & alps tour events last week! What remains of the European tour is now a regional development tour, half of which takes place outside of Europe. The UK might as well go back to their own tour with a few co-sanctioned US PGA tour events...

jams100 · 09-08-2022 12:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448468#Comment_119448468

Essentially the rich get richer, going to be harder for people who are currently in the top50 in the world to drop outside and conversely nearly impossible for the likes of a Richard Balnd (before his deflection to Liv) to break into the top 50 by playing outside the USA.

Who's idea was this? What good is it supposed to serve the game of golf?

The rankings already reflected ability well enough, I thought, as in, the top 10 players in the world were there based on their play over a fair time period.

slave1 · 09-08-2022 1:31pm

It's all setup for the DP to be another feeder tour to the PGA per discussions on the LIV thread. If a player want to rise they must first finish in the Top 10 of the DP "World" Tour and then get their PGA card and play in the PGA to gain rankings.

Simply no other way, even if you win a Major as a DP player you still will not have a PGA card

slave1 · 09-08-2022 1:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119445455#Comment_119445455

Exactly!

Mushy · 09-08-2022 5:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119449168#Comment_119449168

I'd have no issue with the DP tour becoming a feeder tour if some events on the DP tour became regular pga tour events. Highly unlikely to happen though

paulos53 · 09-08-2022 5:59pm

There is every chance that the Korn Ferry Tour event will have twice as many ranking points on offer this week than the European Tour event.

It is one thing for the European Tour to become a feeder tour. It is in big trouble if it is not even the primary feeder tour.

Seve OB · 10-08-2022 2:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119429515#Comment_119429515

Sure didn’t tigerwood1 shoot a course record around St Andrews with a set he hired @ the local corner shop 🤣

Seve OB · 10-08-2022 2:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119445314#Comment_119445314

You say he is re allowing the “rebels” back. When were they ever banned? I don’t think they were. Wasn’t it just a case that they were fined?

abff · 10-08-2022 3:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448468#Comment_119448468

Just to complete the picture, this week’s Korn Ferry tour event is worth 14.78985 points to the winner - over 80% more than the DP World Tour event. Shows how far down the ladder the former European Tour has fallen. How did they let this happen?

Mantis Toboggan · 11-08-2022 10:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119454654#Comment_119454654

Keith Pelley

Speak Now · 11-08-2022 11:15am

Amazing how quiet the PGA players are about the new ranking points. Same group couldn't go a day without a new negative comment on LIV. This new system is all about protection for the top tour, an absolute disgrace. More to pro golf than those at the top.

Mantis Toboggan · 11-08-2022 11:55am

Further strengthens the monopoly that the pga and US golf have.

Seve OB · 11-08-2022 2:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119457746#Comment_119457746

Probably a bit unfair. Covid had a serious impact on the tour. It never recovered.

Seve OB · 11-08-2022 2:26pm

i noticed the lorn ferry tour has a significantly less purse than the European tour for the next few weeks. Odd that, yet higher ranking points

callaway92 · 11-08-2022 3:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119459006#Comment_119459006

Agreed. Covid genuinely played the largest part in killing the tour

abff · 11-08-2022 6:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119459431#Comment_119459431

But weak leadership, in particular rolling over and allowing the latest change in the World Rankings system, has not helped.

Dr. Bre · 06-09-2022 5:48pm

New match play event announced for the DP Tour - GB and Ire v continental Europe. Think it’s on in Dubai in January 2023

Mantis Toboggan · 06-09-2022 6:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119580662#Comment_119580662

What's it called, the Seve Trophy??

Dr. Bre · 06-09-2022 8:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119580901#Comment_119580901

The hero trophy

Trampas · 06-09-2022 8:39pm

That nobody will turn up to

eagle eye · 06-09-2022 9:44pm

Always loved the BMW PGA championship but I don't think I can watch it this year with all these detestable people from the other tour playing.

I wouldn't enjoy watching golf hoping for people to have a terrible day and that's what I'd want for those players.

callaway92 · 07-09-2022 9:20am

Glad that Jon Rahm and Billy Horschel had the balls to call the players out on it

Hate that some are being praised for ‘admitting doing it for the money’, when it’s now completely being passed over who the Tour is actually run by and that players don’t care about that

slave1 · 07-09-2022 9:58am

Find this quite a piece of hypocrisy myself, Billy only plays DP rich events and Rahm the same, played the Irish Open when a Rolex and soon abandoned thereafter and has only played one DP proper event this calendar year, the co-sanctioned Scottish Open

benny79 · 07-09-2022 10:12am

There still playing in DP events though. Some of the players he mentioned haven't played in any! and are obviously only doing it for ranking points.. Sure they all only ever played in the big events.

Plus the fact the said they joined LIV to play less golf more time with family etc which is obviously Bull..

Both said they have no problem with Poulter & Westwood as they always supported the DP tour..

eagle eye · 07-09-2022 11:06am

Rahm played the Scottish Open last year when it wasn't co-sanctioned and played Andalucia and the Spanish Open too.

Horschel is a PGA tour player all his life but he did play the Scottish open last year too and the Alfred Dunhill links.

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