Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

do you get why motorists don't think they need to obey the rules of the road? maybe it's a problem with all road users?

it's amazing how many people have stories of being hit by bikes running red lights on the internet, i've never met anyone who's been hit by a bicycle

Is it amazing? That's the first story on boards I've seen of someone being hit by a bicycle. I've never been hit by a bicycle.

However the green man on pedestrian crossings is rendered obsolete by city centre cyclists. They will blast through red lights even when there are pedestrians stepping onto the road. You can't obfuscate that with statistics about what car drivers do or do not do.

I thought you were starting a new thread?

Sorry

It's easy to generalise like that against some cyclists. Some motorists are also doing this on a just a regular basis, if not more. The risk to pedestrians is considerably more when a motorist does it. For balance, pedestrians are also routinely walking out onto roads in urban areas without looking or thinking.

Meanwhile, where is the enforcement? Its almost totally absent and left to road users to do the right thing. Therefore, all categories or road user do things they should not with little fear of being caught.

You see it all the time on Twitter, people going on about their granny's being hit by bicycles etc. It's all fabricated, I caught one guy a while back saying it was his sister and a quick look at his profile had him saying it was his grandmother a few days before.

I just find it mad that people like you get so annoyed by cyclists but I don't see you demanding motorists are held more accountable when they're the ones killing and maiming daily in Ireland. Look at the Garda Traffic Twitter account, drug and drink driving and all kinds of madness happens all the time yet no one seems to care. Those darn cyclists though being a net benefit to society, grrrrr.

No he means me. I'm veering off-topic and already promised not to.

I really can't say I see rlj cyclists "blast through" pedestrian lights. I see them proceed through them, but normally cautiously enough not to be a danger to pedestrians, at least on my route in and out of the city.

Monorail?

Not safe, Joe. They could get knocked down by a car.

Well cyclists might have slowed down the bus, but they didn't stop it getting through the lights - that would have been the cars/taxis/buses in front that the bus would have caught up with if it hadn't been 'slowed down'.

I cycle this route every day and I was slowed down by two buses yesterday. But only for a couple of hundred metres.

Drove northbound from 5 lamps to edges, just after 6pm today.

Counted 22 vehicles heading southbound that shouldn’t have been in that lane. And it’s only going to get worse.

I drove outbound this evening on a diversion from where I was going to see what it was like.

Passed 4 cars sailing in oblivious to everything. These should have their licences removed for a period of time and made to sit a theory test again! They clearly can not read the signs all over the place and made illegal turns to get there.

I get a softly softly approach in the beginning, but they need to enforce it in time before the busy September period commences.

AGS had no problem having checkpoints the length and breadth of the country stopping people from driving to a park or beach for a walk in Covid. All we’re asking for is one roads policing car literally shooting fish in the barrel.

Went through Fairview on a bus yesterday morning at 8:10 or so. Bus wasn't impacted as there are still two inbound lanes in Fairview (which was my original concern from last Sunday). Looking at Fairview Strand as we passed by Edge's Corner it was just about full so there was the possibility of minor traffic congestion in Fairview assuming traffic levels would increase from around 8:10-8:40 (prime rush hour).

I do think there will be congestion for private cars in Fairview when schools return and we move into Autumn. The only worry I would have now is that if it gets too bad it will affect the Malahide/Howth Road junctions as that potentially would impact on public transport.

I pass by the Ballybough Road/NCR junction after I get off the bus and I didn't see too much congestion there or at the right turn for Amiens Street at Portland Row. Again it's hard to judge anything fully at this time of year because it is when traffic is at its lowest. Fingers cross it won't deteriorate too much.

Bear in mind, there's no mention of the water mains upgrade works in that article at all, they're painting the project as something *solely* to upgrade cycle lanes, with bus services mentioned briefly at the end