What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

And there we have our answer... but but it's only the guilty who take the fifth.

That could be turned around, by a simple comment of same people who were shouting and agreeing for this happening to her are now outraged because the shoe is on a different leg and foot. No one person, entity, group, groups should be exempt from any measure of law and the investigation(s) of any possible wrongs, perceived wrongs or other.

To my mind , anyone who said that they could stand in the middle of 5th Ave and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose voters , - to me that is a dreadful thing to say. What kind of person, would say such a thing, never mind about as a candidate for such an important and powerful role, then again what kind of human being was so awful - with cruel behaviour of mocking a journalist disability.

Somehow I don’t think you’ll be checking in later.

He’s a conman, a liar, a thief and a grifter.

You are welcome.

Why take the 5th if you are innocent

you are given facts about trump.

you don't address the facts, but instead engage in whataboutery.

We pull it back to Trump, the man the thread is about, and you deflect by asking posters to list why they "hate" him.

When given your answer, you engage in whataboutery *again*.

It's almost as if you cannot debate in good faith.

Any idea why that is?

He brought it all on himself - even going so far as to sign the law that made what he did a felony, lmfao

I'm partially surprised (not completely, obviously) that he plead the fifth. From previous reports, neither Don Jr nor Ivanka did so during their testimony.

See, I don't think the media is treating him unfairly

Even people who don't support Trump (Cuomo etc) are taking this tact as well.

The 5th in the US is an interesting piece of law and tradition. It's borne out of the Common Law and the tradition of a right against self incrimination, via a right to silence.

It has huge benefits to an accused in a criminal trial, particularly as in the US at least. The court/jury cannot draw any inference of guilt from an accused exercising the 5th.

Now in a civil case, which is what Trump is currently fighting in NY. The prohibition against drawing an inference from a respondent can be made moot by presenting probative evidence to the respondent. The invocation of the 5th in such an instance can lead to inference of responsibility/culpability.

The evolution and indeed the application of the right to silence and avoidance of self incrimination across multiple jurisdictions is IMO one of the most interesting of trial law and practice. I'm by no means an expert but I have a deep interest in the Law and it's practice.

The NY prosecutors have recently gained access to the valuation documents and the company that was responsible for those is now seeking to purge it's contempt and avoid its own $10k a day fine. The case is being built meticulously on the civil side and it must be remembered in a Civil case, responsibility/culpability is assigned on the basis of the balance of probability. Given what will be an overwhelming mountain of paper trail and testimony? I look forward to seeing how the NY case is bargained out. If nothing else, the withdrawal of Mazar's from standing over their audit/oversight is the nail that this particular case will hinge on.