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Autumn Calving

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    She is now getting the tar once a week, as suggested by Mrs Whelan.

    I started to give her half a kg of meal this week. About rolled oats, can that to given on its own or mixed with something to get her to take it or is oats only for housed spring calving cows. Never had a cow calving this late and to a neighbour's bull, but that's another story



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Any advances on the rolled oats. I bought some and was told not to give any more than a fistful mixed with some beef 16.

    She is CHx, approx 800 kg, due 5 Sept



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I only feed rolled oats with a pre calving mineral. Sometimes it take a few days to get them to eat the oats if they are spoiled with meal as the oats are bland. You could mix in a handful of meal to sweeten the oats. I wouldn't feed any meal at this stage as the cow will transfer that energy to the growing calf and your only asking for trouble. I had the couple of Autumn calvers on a bare enough paddock getting a 12l bucket of oats with pre calving minerals between them every evening. One calved unassisted a couple of weeks ago but I don't have a date for the other which is a pbr heifer.

    Edit to add - we use Welmin Dry Cow minerals.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Thanks Base, what scared me was the chap supplying it reeled off the name of something cows get by feeding oats to a pregnant cow. He said to give her more than a handful of oats. I was surprised as I had good results from posters here. I have no experience of giving oats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Of all the straights that I've fed to calves/cattle (we feed mostly straights) over the years I've never had any rumen issues feeding rolled oats - like feeding any meal start small and increase slowly over a period of a couple of weeks. Rolled oats is light by weight as the seed is small and the husk makes up the rest that is why I posted that I gave the 2nd calver and heifer a 12l bucket every evening w/minerals.

    IMO in Ireland rolled oats is a very underrated feed especially for young growing stock. I understand that farmers buy meal for convenience but again IMO most of it is bulked up with cheap fillers and ash.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Is oats better than barley for weanlings? How much would you give weanling heifers over the winter, how much minerals do you give too.

    Totally agree that nuts are handy



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I always feed oats to bucket fed calves from they start eating meal, you can really see them walk ahead of one's that don't get it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    She's calved midday. Very fast birth, small lively heifer - brought them in, calf drank easily.


    She got the Stockholm tar every week, oats with a little meal every day, which helped when checking her pins as she got nearer due date.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Just pulled a massive f*cker of an FSZ calf, almost a week early, probably should have got the vet, she was very wobbly after calving but is coming around now.

    Hate seeing them get a bit torn but hopefully she'll recover



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Good result - maybe a suckler cow in the making?

    Post edited by Base price on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Apologies, I'm just after catching up with this thread. It really depends on what you are doing with the weanlings i.e. selling them or keeping them. I prefer oats as it provides energy and oil for growing out Wintered stock especially for replacement heifers and dairy/dairy cross bulls & heifers. I want them to grow a good frame in their first year whilst having a good hairy oily coat that protects them during the cold wet Winter months - our weanling have access to a shed if they choose but most of the time they prefer to be out. TBH I'm not of fan of feeding barley in quantities as it can trigger acidosis unless there is a good source of fibre available to the cattle. Nowdays most farmers feed silage and unless it's in the form of haylage or strong silage taken from THM type grass then IMO you are only asking for trouble. Others on here may disagree and give their own experiences which I would welcome to hear.

    https://www.tirlanfarmlife.com/farm-advice/detail/article/managing-acidosis-in-beef-cattle



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Keep an eye on the suckler cows, lot of rain, soft grass, had a neighbor with one short of mag last night



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Thanks, it’s for replacement heifers, I find good growth the first year makes a help. Last year I gave the heifers 1kg/head of dairy nut and was not impressed, think they gained 20kg in a month. The bulls for spring sale were on Calf grower and done better. These will be inside, I want size not condition



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Had a cow down with milk fever last night. To be fair she has some bag on her. If she was in the parlour you’d be impressed. Old AAx FR I bought as a calf



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,599 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Ahv have boluses you give after they calve to prevent milk fever. Great at this time of year



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Yeah had some but didn’t get them into her in time. Bottle under the skin at 5 again at 11. 2 boluses and a bottle of pearls in the end



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Niallers87


    Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but have a few heifers here that are calving from the 18th of August onwards, I was just wondering when I should start restricting them with grass. They are all in calf to limousine so I presume they may carry over so just conscious about the size of the calves



  • Registered Users Posts: 845 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    I remember being told in the green cert that the calf grows the most in the last 3weeks



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Yep they should be on bare enough ground now. I wouldn’t starve them you want them fit and def not fat but dont put them under stress either in my opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,807 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    The calf doubles in size in the last 6 weeks. That's what I remember.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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