Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

If you guesstimate 750 available rentals..over 26 counties…that’s about 28 available rentals per county….

that’s just nuts. The fûck are this government doing ? Absolute first rate traitors. 28 per county.

But.. still ‘no limit’ to the numbers arriving. Nor will there be. Not two fûcks given.

no background or acceptance check to verify what if any danger those arriving might be in, if any… or what danger they might pose to Irish citizens…

lots from western Ukraine arriving, nowhere near the fighting, no problem.

They are being given here accommodation free gratis and full social welfare.

British are not giving their citizens the same middle finger as we are getting from our government. They give them an appropriate yet generous £350 per month.

It's rare I agree with FG and Leo but the idea of linking dole rates to previous earnings (and reducing over time to incentivise finding a new job) is where we should be going on that topic

We have had 2 periods of 'full' employment over the last decade or so, where you will find a job if you really want one and are capable of working.

It's quite obvious some folk simply don't want to work. If you are able bodied and haven't worked in 10, 15 or 20 years, it's time they starting cutting dole, not raising it.

Complains current Government have abandoned it’s people and that Ukrainian refugees interests are being put ahead of “the natives”…

”What’s that? Sinn Fein want to increase social welfare benefits? They’re not getting my vote”

Ye’re gas lads 😂

Sign Fein are only worried that FF and FG will be remembered for all the help they gave the Ukraine and that they will be left behind.

the only shot from their bow is a grandstanding headline grabbing one and to hell with the consequences for the state and it’s citizens…it’s as see through and disingenuous as always and as anything they do…. Loaded with agenda.

And so what if they do? Everyone who qualifies would have just gained €50 that they didn’t have before.

True, but the point stands - they’re promising something to the Irish electorate that the current Government haven’t done in all the time they’ve been in power.

The current shower stole SF thunder somewhat regarding immigration, the current situation in Ukraine being somewhat of an absolute gift for them in terms of their poor record on immigration up to now. I’m just not sure their performance over the last few months will be enough to save their political skin, and I don’t relish the thought of an SF Government for a whole host of other reasons.

I’m only hoping the civil servants in their various departments will rein them in a bit tbh.

100%, but it goes to show how absolutely un-democratic this country is. No way in hell if the Irish people were given a say in a referendum regarding it that they’d have said… “🤪 ahh yeah sure as many as want to come and we’ll house them, give them full social welfare and medical cards “

With covid it’s the greatest crisis since 1916-1921 but the citizens absolutely discouraged, dissuaded and prevented from having a single utterance of influence as to what’s happening to their country…ears and minds are closed, politicians and NGOs only looking east… a version of dictatorial autocracy ….what a time to be alive….. not.

I've been saying for years now on this site how Leo is all about Leo and will say whatever he thinks will serve him and his profile. He always has a comment or soundbite for the press about something not at all to do with him, but delivers very little in his own brief.

This is more evidence of it. The only one more dangerous is Coveney who is even more beholden to the EU and a student of the late Peter Sutherland who had very clear views on the situation we find ourselves in with these "refugees" and migration. He also has made concerning statements about looking at our long held neutrality too.

Then of course there's Helen McEntee who is massively out of her depth, no useful real world experience, and promoted way beyond her ability based solely on her support for Leo and being one of his "New FG" crop of trend following, Twitter (and Tik Tok in her case) obsessed narcissists, and yet she is somehow seen as a possible future leader of the party and Taoiseach?? If that happens of course, much will be made of her youth and gender and "how far we've come" and "progressive" we are (just as was the case with Leo before her), but God help the actual country and citizens.

I've said it many times... FG are in fact WORSE than FF. The only reason that we haven't seen more of it historically is that they're never elected on their own merit but as a protest vote when FF lose the run of themselves - and then only until they (FG) remind us why that is as they make things even worse, ultimately making FF electable again as happened last time and through the aftermath of the Financial Crisis.

The problem is that our alternative are SF who would make this current situation even worse as they'd give even more away, and whose primary objective is a goal that most people don't particularly support beyond romanticism (not when it comes to paying for it and integrating unionists and making compromises), or FF who are led by a man known to need a dozen reports before he'll stumble into a decision, who will probably be ousted by his own party or take the money and retire before the next election, and with no clear successor - certainly no one who could pull the party never mind the country behind them.

The decisions being made now on this issue and the consequences and future prospects for those of us who are expected to pay for all this and shut up is very bleak indeed I fear - and that's without even considering external factors like the climate agenda and incoming recession.

But sure, when Leo gets back in in a few months we'll probably get more US-style addresses from the steps of the Dail and some movie quotes, so who cares about any of that right?

It's more populist nonsense. Big talk about tax cuts and band changes which certainly would be welcomed but in real terms mean maybe a fiver a week to most people. It'll be wiped out by the heating and electricity bills over the winter, never mind the increasing costs of everything else and whatever other charges and levies they dream up.

What FG give with one hand they more than take back with the other.

That's an interesting point. It seems FG and FF found that magic money tree a few years ago after all. The same one they spent years (rightly) slating SF about, and yet here we are.

The EU has not declared war on Russia, Ukraine is not actually in the EU, and given the size of the country vs the areas involved in the fighting, it's more akin to a regional conflict.

Despite the posturing, the last thing the EU and NATO want is to be formally dragged into this conflict. Support and interest from the citizenship is waning as well as the consequences in EU nations, coupled with the effects of other things like the climate agenda and a global recession takes centre stage domestically.

Leo making statements like that is more of his grandstanding for the likes, but not at all helpful to the situation.

Your answer is in what you yourself just acknowledged...

"No one suggested they did", ergo Europe is in fact NOT at war, ergo Varadkar's comments are incendiary and blatantly untrue.

As for the rest of your nonsense in the above post.. If you can't handle feedback that disagrees with you without throwing your toys everywhere and childish name-calling, maybe you need a blog, not a discussion forum