Prey aka Predator 5 (Dan Trachtenberg)

@Drumpot

Thing is, though, is that Ripley isn't being confronted because of her sex or her position in a society. She's being confronted because her story interferes with Wayland-Yutani's business interests, which is a very different thing altogether. There's actually little to no sexual politics in the Alien trilogy, unlike a lot of modern movies where producers feel the need to "right" the "wrongs" of past Hollywood output by having women (or even just girls) do everything a man can do +1, especially in the area of physicality, where "strong female character" is usually interpreted as a female who is able to knock the shit out of guys that are twice their size and strength, which is insulting to basic logic whether one is female or male.

It's tiresome to see that trope constantly played out on its most basic, literal, terms all the time. Especially when it's all so completely unnecessary.

Gina is at least 10 stone and was fighting at the top of the womens MMA game, she would batter the average dude.

Which is why I said "little to no sexual politics" is in the series. In 'Alien 3' she's on a planet full of criminals. Murders and rapists. There's "sexual politics" in that she's a female under threat from criminals, if you want to look at it that way. But that's not the same sexual politics that gets infused into modern movies. If 'Alien 3' was made today, Ripley would have had no bother whatsoever from the threat of rape from one of the inmates because she would have kicked them all around the place and not have needed the good fortune of Dillon coming to her rescue, because she got overpowered.

She leads the inmates to victory because she has a certain and particular knowledge, though. Not because she's a SFC who can kick the shite out of blokes twice her size. Or even the alien for that matter.

I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. I've merely replied pointing out the difference between Ellen Ripley's character and the "strong female character" trope of modern cinema. Ellen Ripley is just a relatively well written character. She doesn't need to knock ten shades out of a 200lb guy to be given the moniker. She's "strong" in that she's a convincing person in extraordinary circumstances who overcomes her predicament with a combination of guile, luck and help from other people. She doesn't just overcome her ordeals because of her sex and lazy writing which is, unfortunately, a symptom of many modern movies.

What makes you think that I didn't "accept" the film, or that the lead character physically fought was irksome to me? My point in reply to yours was that Naru and Ripley are very different and there's no real comparison to be made here, other than they are both females fighting an alien entity. But I have no problem with either character. The only time 'Prey' gets a bit silly is with the ease that Naru dispatches 5 or 6 blokes with an axe on a rope. Other than that, it was generally fine. 'Prey' is an OK film, but it's nothing more than that, even if it's miles ahead of other entries in the series.

there is actually "science" behind that

Not all dinosaurs were cold blooded n apparently.

Dont forget this epic stunt from Alluda Majaka

When has Bollywood ever been a benchmark for anything approaching realism, physics or logic?

Also, who gives a fuck about realism in superhero movies? People arguing over the relative strengths and weaknesses of character with super powers is utterly absurd.

I think all the Predator movies have kind of done that though, leaned into the genre tropes of the day. Like, the first was pure 80s testosterone action, drawing from the likes of Rambo: First Blood 2 sort of world. The second was pure late 80s, early 90s city cop stuff, like Lethal Weapon - with that late 80s John Carpenter city horror aesthetic thrown in too (Big Trouble in Little China, They Live), and even Terminator. And this one does lean a bit more into the slick swift action that is expected by audiences now. I mean, this movie is firmly in the entertainment camp - it's not high art. And in that, I think it was a particularly good version of it.

There was a comment earlier about someone not really getting the love for Predator 2 - I have to say, I'd agree with that too. I wonder if some of the love for it is nostalgic, having seen it at the time? I saw it waaay after it came out, and, like, I thought it was fine. But in the series, it's in 4th place for me. Predator is first obviously, Prey and Predators are neck and neck - but i'd give the edge to Prey as a better constructed movie, and then a fair bit behind is Predator 2. (And obviously that other recent abomination is miles behind the lot of them).

I dunno D, I don't think you're actually reading my responses, or you're reading something into them that isn't there.

In any case, watch this...it pretty much coincides with my opinion on this movie.