IRFU Transgender Women Policy Change

I think you need to reread your own post and my post....

These trans players are still perfectly entitled to play rugby, just not women's rugby contrary to your post...

Being sound to someone does not always mean giving them everything they want. It might be sound to give a drug addict the drugs they want or a child the dangerous things they want to play with. As adults we are supposed to do the right thing above the "sound" thing. I think the IRFUs decision is quite right and sound to the women who are probably now relieved they won't have to play against biological males.

I actually know 2 people who consider themselves transgender including one of them who would have been my best friend for years growing up. He has always had issues that go far beyond being allowed to play a sport or not and unfortunately that is the case for an awful lot of trans people. He was a big rugby player and extraordinarily strong and at times worryingly aggressive to the point where he attacked another guy who used to bully him and gave him a ruptured spleen and fractured his own hand. He now identifies as a woman although i havent spoken to him in 12 years. I'd be extremely worried for the wellbeing of any woman playing against him if he decided to play rugby in his new identity as a woman.

So your a young woman that has spent all her life hard work and grafting to be top of her game and somebody that's naturally going to be stronger through genetics is comming in swooping up medals as they will be at a clear advantage. Women's sport for birthcert born females, Men's sport for birthcert born males and if trans people want to compete on a level playing field they can set up there own tournaments.

Bingo.

That can be reposted ad infinitum until the reality starts to sink in for the deluded posters on here.

Those advocating for biological males to be let loose against biological females havent a notion when it comes to the business of getting insurance cover for rugby or GAA.

The minute a biological male flattens and seriously injures a biological female on a sports field I guarantee you the insurance company underwriting the players injury fund would pull the pin. Then again some of the trans people foaming at the mouth at the IRFU this week would be more than happy at that outcome. If they cant play and be pandered to endlessly then why should anyone else be allowed to play🙄

says you. BTW the IRFU arent going to change their minds about this and I expect other sporting bodies all over the world will do likewise.

So good luck with your campaign or crusade or whatever you call it. Its doomed.

And I'll reiterate this again, kudos and well done to the IRFU. Putting the safety of biologically female players front and centre. The correct and proper decision.

Im off to bed, busy day of games to go to tomorrow. Delighted that the whole nonsense of biological males being allowed to play against biological females has been clarified and put to an end for good.

You enjoy spending the day indoors writing complaints to the IRFU or whatever.

Cheerio.

Because he is not a woman at all and never will be. I dont accept this nonsense that we have to pretend that genders are meaningless. He hasn't transitioned medically and he calls himself a woman despite only occasionally dressing as a woman. Most of the time he just wears some makeup from what ive seen on his Facebook. He does not meet any definition of a woman. He has however always been a serious attention seeker. I remember him being abusive to his parents all the time and him writing weird gothic poetry on the blackboard before class. Never once did he act in an overtly feminine manner when we were in school together and ive known him since i was 10. This trans thing seemed to happen very abruptly a few years after he came out as gay. His Facebook is a constant stream of trans activism and from what I've seen of the trans pride parades that happen in Dublin and elsewhere an awful lot of trans people seem to share very similar traits. There's a serious degree of narcissism in someone who thinks they should be allowed to keep all of their male sexual characteristics and still demand that they are called a woman.

Just because I vehemently disagree with you on something doesn't mean I'm ignorant around trans issues. I'd wager that I'm considerably more informed on the debate than most. I've yet to see a convincing or rational argument in favour of gender theory that doesn't fall to shreds under even light scrutiny. It's just not based in any hard repeatable science, it's all totally subjective.

When you can't define gender how can you demand that someone must use pronouns which refer to gender. Its either meaningless or its not.

I also think this argument that anyone who hasn't gone through puberty should be allowed play is ludicrous. Testosterone is not the only advantage men have. Just look at videos of prodigious talents like Tiger Woods or Lionel Messi before they hit puberty. They were doing insane things well beyond the reach of any girls many years older than them. The differences in coordination and reaction speed in boys and girls are very real well before puberty.